Forbid cc count confirmation

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mctsts: I brought this up a while ago, but it got shut down as it was seen as unlikely this would acutally be used. The issue is somebody requesting to be added to all ccs of another player (or potentially requesting them to create any uncreated ccs they may have) to proof they do not have any "scum ccs"

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e_thsn: also for wolvish players does this reveal the player's name

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shapechange: yeah

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shapechange: current phrasing suggests yes

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shapechange: and i think this is fine

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e_thsn:

I brought this up a while ago, but it got shut down as it was seen as unlikely this would acutally be used. The issue is somebody requesting to be added to all ccs of another player (or potentially requesting them to create any uncreated ccs they may have) to proof they do not have any "scum ccs"

or things like TC or Chef, who usually use a CC as part of their ability, can't confirm themselves by making the rest of their CCs public

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venomousbirds: should i just add this to the Game-Specific section in <#841289716322009088>?

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mctsts: yea, probably

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venomousbirds: https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/841289716322009088/841309657666682910

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venomousbirds: Edited this and some other rules

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venomousbirds: <@458727748504911884> <@242983689921888256> <@544125116640919557>

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mctsts: I feel like that rule is a bit too much?

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mctsts: it seems to imply you shouldnt share ccs at all

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venomousbirds: might need to rephrase

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venomousbirds:

💬 Do not ask other players to show you their ccs. Conspiracy Channels are made to be private. Asking for someone to add another to all their created ccs to "confirm they're not lying" is against the concept of private ccs and can ruin the game for players. It's also a bad strategy in general, as some roles are forced to communicate with mechanically confirmed players through ccs. Adding someone to your own cc(s) at your own volition is allowed.

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venomousbirds: it sounds a bit severe but idk how to rephrase it

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venomousbirds: lmao? crossing a channel embeds it <:thonk:688530547857031236>

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mctsts: "Asking for someone to reveal all of their ccs to proof "they do not have any ccs which might reveal they are lying" ..."

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venomousbirds: hm i see

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venomousbirds: maybe changing it from adding to "forcing someone to add"?

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venomousbirds: so forcing someone to add people to all their ccs

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mctsts: yea

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venomousbirds: specifically all

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mctsts: yea

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venomousbirds: would the last part make sense?

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venomousbirds: or would that just be

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venomousbirds: town adds everyone to their ccs

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venomousbirds: you dont willingly do that so youre scum

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mctsts: I think having that sentence makes sense, but needs to be further extended

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mctsts: something like Adding someone to your own cc(s) at your own volition is allowed, however you still should not add somebody else to all of your ccs to proof you are not lying.

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mctsts: Please update the rules when you can to contain this <@277156693765390337>