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Two team victory #1371

Open CrowdfordBot opened 3 months ago

CrowdfordBot commented 3 months ago

mctsts: Is a two team victory possible?

CrowdfordBot commented 3 months ago

alphaviki: I think this scenario can only happen between solos and in my non-gm opinion I'd say yes, since it would be a bit unfair to give any solo preferential treatment. You could make a ranking based on how many measures they have to prevent this, but I believe this just makes the game unreasonably more complicated.

CrowdfordBot commented 3 months ago

alphaviki: On the other hand what I just thought about: How do you prevent solos working together then? Maybe we do need the ranking...

CrowdfordBot commented 3 months ago

mctsts:

On the other hand what I just thought about: How do you prevent solos working together then? Maybe we do need the ranking...

That's an interesting point

CrowdfordBot commented 3 months ago

mctsts: But really even from a lore perspective devil and flute don't have a problem with each other

CrowdfordBot commented 3 months ago

mctsts: And I think this only works for devil and flute

CrowdfordBot commented 3 months ago

mctsts: All i was planning with this issue is to add a single sentence somewhere in the results section of the rules, but it does raise the question of if we want a FP/Devil alliance to be legal

CrowdfordBot commented 3 months ago

e_thsn: <@242983689921888256> didn't we already discuss this?

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/584859186287083528/1182300266511487116

CrowdfordBot commented 3 months ago

mctsts: We did! And we did in fact also already discuss that we discussed it!

CrowdfordBot commented 3 months ago

mctsts: https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/810624940855787520/1235342031748861962

CrowdfordBot commented 3 months ago

mctsts: However no action has been taken so far

CrowdfordBot commented 3 months ago

mctsts:

On the other hand what I just thought about: How do you prevent solos working together then? Maybe we do need the ranking...

However I dont think this has been considered

CrowdfordBot commented 3 months ago

e_thsn: I mean what ways can a two team victory occur Last Non-Soulless & Unenchanted player dies Not Pyro, Plague, Horsemen and WWW (need all other teams dead) Not Underworld (need everyone else converted or dead)

The scenario is really specific because it needs

Most likely option is 4 players left, Devil and Demon are enchanted, Flute Player sells soul to kill the last player

CrowdfordBot commented 3 months ago

mctsts: yep

CrowdfordBot commented 3 months ago

mctsts: Like I said originally I would've just put one basic sentence in a results section somewhere to resolve the issue without further thought, but we should consider that this allows a FP/Devil alliance

CrowdfordBot commented 3 months ago

shapechange: hmmm

CrowdfordBot commented 3 months ago

shapechange: I don't really want to permit an alliance

CrowdfordBot commented 3 months ago

shapechange: options: a) keep playing until "there is a clear winner" (i.e until one of the teams is eradicated) b) forbid collusions of this style c) just let it slide?

CrowdfordBot commented 3 months ago

mctsts: is c) "we just pretend we never discussed this and we will probably not have to worry about this until like 2029 because it wont happen anyway?"

CrowdfordBot commented 3 months ago

shapechange: yea

CrowdfordBot commented 3 months ago

shapechange: ill be dead by 2029 anyway

CrowdfordBot commented 3 months ago

mctsts: 👍

CrowdfordBot commented 3 months ago

e_thsn:

ill be dead by 2029 anyway

huh?