role suggestion: grave robber

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mctsts: new version of LA basically; UAA the night after somebody is lynched the grave robber may choose to take their role strongly disguised as grave robber cannot win without changing role

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venomousbirds: okay honestly thats pretty good

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shapechange: i like this

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venomousbirds: immediately approved

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venomousbirds: so its a choice, what if multiple people get lynched

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venomousbirds: what about angel, can it choose angel?

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so its a choice, what if multiple people get lynched

gets both choices

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what about angel, can it choose angel?

dont see any reason it couldnt BUT if we wanted to avoid this we could say "player who died from lynch"

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venomousbirds: no reason to avoid it, but more of a quick ocnsideration

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venomousbirds: as some people might call it "dying" and some people might not count ascending

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venomousbirds: so its just something we gotta get down straight

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shapechange: what about players who get indirectly lynched (exe target) or die due to lynch but aren't lynched (angel target)?

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shapechange: (i also for the record think this role should never be paired with wolf cub)

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venomousbirds: LMAO

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venomousbirds: or child?

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venomousbirds:

what about players who get indirectly lynched (exe target) or die due to lynch but aren't lynched (angel target)?

exactly

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or child?

child is more acceptable bc thats still wasting a lynch from towns pov

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shapechange: but should probably be avoided anyway

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shapechange:

what about players who get indirectly lynched (exe target) or die due to lynch but aren't lynched (angel target)?

what about players who get lynched but don't die (idiot)?

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shapechange: bc we should DEF avoid idiot copy

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shapechange: so we probably also need to avoid angel copy

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shapechange: christ

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shapechange: how the fuck do we word this to get around idiot copy

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venomousbirds:

what about players who get lynched but don't die (idiot)?

cant rob a living person's grave

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venomousbirds: the idiot is still alive

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shapechange: so it has to be "dead players who were lynched"

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venomousbirds: something like that

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shapechange: bc idiot "dies" from lynch

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shapechange: (and that's specifically how it's phrased in the simplified desc)

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shapechange: so exe target can be robbed

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shapechange: angel isn't dead so can't copy angel, angel target isn't lynched so can't copy target

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venomousbirds: sounds about right

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venomousbirds: The Graverobber can only copy the role of dead players who died from being lynched.

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mctsts: I dont see a problem with copying angel but it should not be possible to have the idiot edge case fixed easily yeah

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mctsts: so its just "the night after somebody died through a lynch, the grave robber may take their role"

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mctsts: Also I guess it's kinda obvious but I specifically made it for lynching only so that it doesn't help a winning team too easily

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mctsts: grave robber is incentivized to do it early in the game so they dont get to a place where the can only copy a losing team member

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Also I guess it's kinda obvious but I specifically made it for lynching only so that it doesn't help a winning team too easily

yeah

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I dont see a problem with copying angel but it should not be possible to have the idiot edge case fixed easily yeah

i also dont see a problem, but i think it's easier to phrase it so it doesn't

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mctsts: yeah

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shapechange: and it not being able to copy angel is also not a problem

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mctsts: exactly

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mctsts: oh and the strong disguise is so it can claim to have taken a different player's role than it did

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shapechange: yes good

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venomousbirds: a dead player that died or ascended through lynch?

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venomousbirds: idk

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mctsts: meh

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mctsts: not worth it

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venomousbirds: adding ascension would include angel but also only specifically angel

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shapechange: yeah im with ts

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shapechange: its a bit clunky