Regretful Wolf

[McTsts]

Rough Role Idea The Regretful Wolf is a town aligned packless lycan who feels remorse for killing town. However they must still kill every night.

Ethan: Is [it a] forced kill, what happens if they don't, what if they kill town?

Ts: Unsure, but it cant be a priest clone. It would probably be a lycan which gives it something unique at least

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Mr. Turtle: So this is basically a TK with a forced every-night kill?

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Ts: It could be part of it, but that's not really enough to make a unique role I think

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Ethan.: What if the punishment for killing town was to instead take on that towns role while still remaining a lycan

[McTsts]

That's somewhat interesting, but I dont think the lycan part would work very well.

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Ts: I think the remorseful wolf idea sounds pretty good, but I don't really have anything that could turn it into an actual decent role. Does anyone else have anything?

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Ts: <@265186558016094208>

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Ethan.: I still think if it kills a town role it turns into that town role

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Ethan.: As a failsafe

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Ts: That just doesn't seem like something that makes sense with the roles concept

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Ts: Also that just encourages random killing

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Ethan.: Maybe just loses the ability to kill if it kills town

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Ts: That could maybe work?

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Ts: To make it more logical maybe it then starves to death after X days (this wouldn't be too bad because our games are fairly short)

[ThomasRubycrust]

We should revisit this idea :)

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shapechange: has potential i suppose

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shapechange: would suggest "outcast wolf" is probably a better name

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shapechange: will think on abilities

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shapechange: perhaps if it kills a townsperson, it is revealed to wolves

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shapechange: (in which case it should only be able to kill from N2 onward)

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Ts: Outcast sounds good

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Ts: Maybe if it kills a townie it's outcast from town too <:thonk:688530547857031236>

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shapechange: and becomes a solo?

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Ts: Yeah

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shapechange: could work

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shapechange: like a very weird cursed civ

[ThomasRubycrust]

It's much better though because you get an ability and if you turn you're responsible yourself.

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shapechange: yes

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shapechange: i kinda like it

[ThomasRubycrust]

Would it be a forced kill?

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shapechange: yes

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shapechange: otherwise there's almost no risk to the role

[ThomasRubycrust]

yeah. Im assuming we'd have it be like Assassin where N1 is skipped though

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shapechange: it's just plain old assassin with unlimited kills and vulnerability to AT

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shapechange: yes

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shapechange: should probably add a WWW-like disguise (without the abilities) so that it's vulnerable to all TI, not just AT

[ThomasRubycrust]

shapechange: it's just plain old assassin with unlimited kills and vulnerability to AT

well except for the becoming solo part?

[ThomasRubycrust]

If it turns solo it needs to turn into a different role I think. It could be permanently disguised as that one.

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shapechange: without the forced kills, i don't see that being a thing that ever happens unless town super fuck up. if there was any chance that the target was town, you wouldn't have OW kill, because you'd rather miss a potential kill than have a high-info solo running around

[ThomasRubycrust]

yeah thats why it gets the forced kill

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shapechange:

💬 ThomasRubycrust: If it turns solo it needs to turn into a different role I think. It could be permanently disguised as that one.

not sure how i feel about that - i think having it appear wolf-like, at least while it's not a solo, should be a major part of the role

[ThomasRubycrust]

shapechange:

💬 ThomasRubycrust: If it turns solo it needs to turn into a different role I think. It could be permanently disguised as that one.

not sure how i feel about that - i think having it appear wolf-like, at least while it's not a solo, should be a major part of the role

true, disguised as Wolf then?

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shapechange:

💬 ThomasRubycrust: yeah thats why it gets the forced kill

yep, was replying to your message "well except for the becoming solo part"

[ThomasRubycrust]

ah

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shapechange:

💬 ThomasRubycrust:

shapechange:

💬 ThomasRubycrust: If it turns solo it needs to turn into a different role I think. It could be permanently disguised as that one.

not sure how i feel about that - i think having it appear wolf-like, at least while it's not a solo, should be a major part of the role

true, disguised as Wolf then?

would suggest it's disguised per the WWW rules to make life a little easier when using it in a public list

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shapechange: have the solo role be called "Maverick Werewolf" or something. could even reuse Grey Werewolf if we really wanted to ig

[ThomasRubycrust]

Outcast² Wolf

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shapechange: out²+2outcast+cast² wolf

[ThomasRubycrust]

outout+outcast+outcast+castcast wolf

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Ethan.: Outcast! wolf

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shapechange: Outcast Wolf [Townsfolk Killing] Basics The Outcast Wolf is a lycan who decries the behaviour of the other wolves and seeks to eliminate them. After night 1, the Outcast Wolf must choose one player to attack during the night. Details The Outcast Wolf is not a member of the wolfpack, and doesn't know the other werewolves. However, they are still a lycan, despite not being a part of the werewolf team. From night 2 onwards, the Outcast Wolf must attack a player. every night. If their target is townsfolk aligned and dies, the Outcast Wolf immediately becomes a maverick werewolf. Otherwise, they remain an Outcast Wolf. If the Outcast Wolf fails to choose a target, one is randomly selected. The Outcast Wolf is strongly disguised as the most common role in the wolfpack, excepting those with permanent or semi-permanent disguises. If there are several most common roles fitting these criteria, the most common Werewolf Miscellaneous role is picked; if there are several most common WM roles, or there are no WM roles, an arbitrary one is picked from the most common WM or wolfpack roles respectively. Attacking a player is an end-night ability.