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Ethan.: Change Reaper abilities to improve the powers taken from the dead

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Captain Luffy: Like for hags, both attacks and recruitment wrong them

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Ethan.: Hags are unaligned and that's part of their win condition

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Ethan.: And also conversions are immediate

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Ethan.: So it defeats the point of the change

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Captain Luffy: Why does that matter? Kills can be immediate or end night, just like conversions

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Captain Luffy: There's really no difference in that department

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Ethan.:

Why does that matter? Kills can be immediate or end night, just like conversions

The point was that any role that uses an immediate ability that fails then that player immediate dies anyone who knows who the player that does is performing the action on is reaper

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Ethan.: And the kills can't be end night because the point is the action fails

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Ethan.: So Investigatives still know the player is reaper

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Captain Luffy: Some kills are immediate though

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Ethan.: Only devil is immediate night

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Captain Luffy: Amulet, barber

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Captain Luffy: Reaper themself

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Ethan.: It would be limited to night attacks

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Ethan.:

Reaper themself

Reaper can't be sleepless

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Captain Luffy: The point is that it's immediate lol

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Ethan.: Also that would mean a reaper would have to immediately attack a reaper

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Ethan.: It's immediate attack is passive not active

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Ethan.:

The point is that it's immediate lol

It's not relevant to the point

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Captain Luffy: Mad scientist, huntress, those are immediate too

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Ethan.: The only immediate night attack is soul kill

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Captain Luffy: I just listed several others

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Ethan.:

Mad scientist, huntress, those are immediate too

Those are dead anyway

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Ethan.: So it'd just fail

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Ethan.: Luffy the point is if an active action performs an immediate ability on reaper it outs the reaper if they're sleepless

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Captain Luffy: So they can't be recruited because... if they failed it would be revealed as reaper? And if they succeed you mean they wouldn't be revealed as reaper?

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Ethan.: Changing it to immune to attacks makes sense

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Ethan.: Because barber and devil is the only one that would reveal

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Ethan.: But devil will lose two souls to do so

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Captain Luffy: Amulet holder is immediate too, I mentioned earlier

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Ethan.: And town might believe the real barber killed the fake one

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Ethan.:

Amulet holder is immediate too, I mentioned earlier

AH doesn't know who has the amulet

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Ethan.: Neither does the player before really

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Captain Luffy: Then why would they kill the holder lol

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Captain Luffy: They probably know

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Ethan.: Because the holder attacked them

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Ethan.: Amulet holder doesn't know who they attack

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Captain Luffy:

So they can't be recruited because... if they failed it would be revealed as reaper? And if they succeed you mean they wouldn't be revealed as reaper?

But what about this

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Ethan.: It means they would change role

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Ethan.: I don't see why reaper needs conversion immunity

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Ethan.: Nightmare isn't a trust team

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Captain Luffy: So if they became a zombie or wolf, do you mean they wouldn't be revealed as reaper regardless

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Ethan.: Yeah but you're suggesting we give nightmare team conversion immunity

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Captain Luffy: It's not a trust team, that's why there's conditions

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Captain Luffy: The point being that recruitment is similar to an attack

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Captain Luffy: Because it removes the role from the game

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Ethan.: No other solo has conversion immunity except hell team

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Ethan.:

Because it removes the role from the game

Attack removes the player too

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Captain Luffy: The current version is already immune

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Captain Luffy: So I mean,