Rogue Wolf Idea

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Ts: <:TownsfolkCard:1072275831541477448><:Wolf:987858992661422080> Ethan's idea

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Captain Luffy: i mean this game it happened from devil wager

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shapechange: shocking luffy i am aware of that

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Ts:

i mean this game it happened from devil wager

wager cant turn cciv?

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Captain Luffy: learned cc identity

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Ts: ah

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The8thSoul: Rogue Wolf -> Dog?

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Captain Luffy: but i think they also knew that from trusted chat infiltration

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Captain Luffy:

priest - fail once, die rogue wolf - fail twice AND get attacked, change alignment

which do u think is more beneficial to wolf team to occur.

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The8thSoul: Priest kills lycans but risks death by TF right?

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Captain Luffy: yup, they suicide if they visit town

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The8thSoul: Rogue Wolf kills anyone but risks losing ability to not killing any evil for 2 nights atm right?

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Captain Luffy: its suggested to additionally get cursed citizen powers when losing ability

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Ts:

which do u think is more beneficial to wolf team to occur.

which do you think is more beneficial to wolf team to occur?

The Assassin kills the Fortune Teller, Cult Leader and Crowd Seeker The Citizen does nothing

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The8thSoul:

which do you think is more beneficial to wolf team to occur?

The Assassin kills the Fortune Teller, Cult Leader and Crowd Seeker The Citizen does nothing

Imagine if Cult Leader kills Assassin before

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Captain Luffy: i mean that wouldnt happen

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The8thSoul:

i mean that wouldnt happen

It would if someone gamethrew incredibly hardly

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Captain Luffy: cult leader is super confirmed

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Captain Luffy: plus theres the added fact that the TK role which u are playing as, wont be allowed to get any info from town trusted

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The8thSoul: But... I think Rogue Wolf should keep "lycan trait" even after losing ability

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Captain Luffy: so u cant get info on whatever ur being told to do, as a tk

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Captain Luffy: which is super unfun to play as, especially when it concerns ur alignment being changed

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The8thSoul:

But... I think Rogue Wolf should keep "lycan trait" even after losing ability

Maybe something that kinda causes it to start attacking recklessly? Like attacking anyone that visits them?

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The8thSoul: idk

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The8thSoul: it could be a replacement to "nothing" tho

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Captain Luffy: it does keep it

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Ts:

i mean that wouldnt happen

it can though

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Ts: its almost like the chance of events happening is relevant

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Ts: not just the impact of them

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The8thSoul:

it does keep it

I know it does (just wanted to make sure it keeps it even after turning CC)

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Captain Luffy: in theory yes, in practice, its near 0

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Ts: It was an overstated example to ridicule you because im mean

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Captain Luffy: like u cant say raally its rare for RW to lose ability. cuz it lost it in this game immediately. thats 100% of the time it was used

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Ts: yes, RW alingment changing is worse, than Priest dying, however it is also rarer

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Ts: that was the point

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Ts:

like u cant say raally its rare for RW to lose ability. cuz it lost it in this game. thats 100% of the time it was used

luffy please

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Ts: we have like no data on RW

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Ts: one game is by no means sufficient

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Captain Luffy: im just comparing the probability of the 2 scenarios being compared

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Ts: we cannot compare the probabilities using statistics since we dont have any data for RW

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Ts: how "fail once" is very clearly easier than "fail twice, get attacked"

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Captain Luffy: well n1 is almost an automatic fail once

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Ts: yes RW fail is easier than Priest fail

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Ts: even then its still harder to reach than Priest

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Captain Luffy: is say easier to fail during n2. because some wolf roles survive, protect, etc

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Ts: yea but you still need to get attacked

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Ts: idk RW is an over-engineered role ngl

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Captain Luffy: priest: attack a townsfolk RW: fail to kill a non TF/UA

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Ts: Every change we make makes it worse

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Ts: I'd say scrap all the details and come up with something new that has the core idea (town sided wolf)

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The8thSoul: Here are some random ideas, although most will probably be instantly rejected:

• Attack townsfolk or unaligned that visit
• Become a "WWW"
• Be automatically lynched for "being a Lycan"
• Automatically resign from all elected roles and can never be elected (will always fail).
• Become Unaligned, with a new winning condition to survive.