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Problems arise with QTTabbar & WindowTop simultaneous use #296

Open 2012send opened 1 year ago

2012send commented 1 year ago

Hi,

When I run the WindowTop software, some of the features of QTTabBar software failure.

For example, preview file, double-click to return to parent folder, etc...

gileli121 commented 1 year ago

@2012send Hi, maybe you can try this:

  1. Click on the WindowTop tray icon --> Blacklist / Whitelist windows

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  1. Click on Add process image

  2. Look here for the QTTabBar process. I don't have it installed, so I don't have it in the screenshot. image

If you found it, select it. If not, you need to browse for the exe file of QTTabBar by clicking on "Select another process". You will get a browser window to specify the process exe file's location.

After that, make sure that the option "Blacklist the specified programs" is selected.

This will tell WindowTop to affect anything from the QTTabBar process (such as Windows and more).

Let me know if it fixed the problem. Btw, it looks like this app is used to give you tabs on file explorer. This recently became a built-in feature in Windows 11. Do you use Windows 11? If so, it would be better for you to update your OS so you will not need this app anymore.

Mystqr4 commented 1 year ago

Hi,

When I run the WindowTop software, some of the features of QTTabBar software failure.

For example, preview file, double-click to return to parent folder, etc...

What OS are you running and what version are you running of each respective software. Could you elaborate on "preview file" if you mean the ability to preview a video by shift clicking on it then that works fine here but I feel like you mean something else. I don't think I am using the latest version of QTTabBar either and am not using the beta version of WindowTop at the moment either. There is one minor issue I have noticed but I don't think it is the same as the ones you have mentioned.

@gileli121 I'm sorry to say but Windows 11 is terrible and its tabbed file explorer is light years behind QTTabBar which is incredibly sad considering QTTabBar has been around for decades in some form or another and rarely gets updated, it also does a lot more than just tabbed explorer. It's actually really nice once you set it up. I feel like its an essential piece of software much like WindowTop. If Microsoft lifted your ideas and attempted to do what you have done with WindowTop does I am certain Microsoft's implementation would be vastly inferior too.

I don't know if it is possible to isolate specific conflicts by blacklist as I imagine you'd have to blacklist explorer which would limit you a fair bit in terms of what you could then so with WindowTop.

gileli121 commented 1 year ago

Several users have reported compatibility problems with QTTabBar. I need to understand the issue better.

@Mystqr4, can you provide a brief recording demonstrating the problem when WindowTop is running? I want to investigate the issue further and see what is malfunctioning.

I have personally tested the compatibility of QTTabBar, and I experienced no problems. Maybe it is because I have used WindowTop beta and QTTabBar beta. Can you report what version of WindowTop and QTTabBar you are using? Thank you.

Mystqr4 commented 1 year ago

I'm using windows 10 and QTTabBar ver 1041 with WindowTop version 5.19.3

This is the only problem I have noticed. https://s12.gifyu.com/images/explorer_f8T62mFJWM.gif

If you aren't fast to click on the little drop down menu for the folder drop down menu the hover bar for windowtop will appear and you cannot use the folder drop down menu shortcut to view the contents or gain fast access to specific files or folders within that folder.

In the gif I have simulate it being an issue and then how it should work by quickly left click on the arrow for the drop down menu to beat Windowtop's hover bar.

Thank you for looking into it. I hope others are able to illustrate the issues they have in the same manner so you know what to look for when testing.

gileli121 commented 1 year ago

@Mystqr4 Thank you. I see now the issue. I am trying to reproduce it now, and for some reason, I found a different bug - the arrow you show on your recording is not showing up when WindowTop is running. This is strange. I will check why it happened.

By the way, I like this QTTabbar app. However, I don't like that there is no option to disable its tabs. Is there a way? I prefer to disable it. I even want to disable Windows 11 tabs because I use the anchors instead of tabs. Unfortunately, seems that there is no way to do it in Windows 11

gileli121 commented 1 year ago

This app indeed breaks Windows 11 control panel image

Mystqr4 commented 1 year ago

It's a really nice piece of software. There have been a lot of similar applications that have tried to take its place but nothing has come close to it. It would have been cool if you could disable tabs as well and jut have all the other features without having to use the tabs if one doesn't want to but as it is this rarely gets updated. I think it may be on it's second or third developer now. It would be nice if someone would fork it and be more active.

gileli121 commented 1 year ago

@Mystqr4 Is it open source? The last developer is not active?

Mystqr4 commented 1 year ago

@Mystqr4 Is it open source? The last developer is not active?

I'm not 100% sure. I couldn't find anything officially but do know a number of people have worked on it in some capacity. With what I believe the latest one is on github and maybe more localized for Chinese language but seems to be more active. I gave it a quick glance once or twice but here are the links that might give you a better idea.

Quizo: (I believe Quizo is the original developer but is not active) http://qttabbar.wikidot.com/forum/t-1777665/qttabbar-open-source http://qttabbar.wikidot.com/

masamunexgp: (No longer active) https://sourceforge.net/projects/qttabbar/ https://qttabbar.sourceforge.net/

Indiff: (Based on Masamunexgp. Last update on the 15th Feb 2023) https://github.com/indiff/qttabbar https://indiff.github.io/qttabbar/ https://sourceforge.net/projects/qttabbar2/

2012send commented 1 year ago

QTTabBar Softpedia The official website pointed to by softpedia I know most of the software from Softpedia. The software installed and used is all from the official website or searched using Google.

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2012send commented 1 year ago

I'm using windows 10 and QTTabBar ver 1041 with WindowTop version 5.19.3

This is the only problem I have noticed. https://s12.gifyu.com/images/explorer_f8T62mFJWM.gif

If you aren't fast to click on the little drop down menu for the folder drop down menu the hover bar for windowtop will appear and you cannot use the folder drop down menu shortcut to view the contents or gain fast access to specific files or folders within that folder.

In the gif I have simulate it being an issue and then how it should work by quickly left click on the arrow for the drop down menu to beat Windowtop's hover bar.

Thank you for looking into it. I hope others are able to illustrate the issues they have in the same manner so you know what to look for when testing.

Yes, I remember seeing this problem before Windows 11 system added Explorer tabs function.

2012send commented 1 year ago

This app indeed breaks Windows 11 control panel

Yes, this problem does exist.

2012send commented 1 year ago

Hi, When I run the WindowTop software, some of the features of QTTabBar software failure. For example, preview file, double-click to return to parent folder, etc...

What OS are you running and what version are you running of each respective software. Could you elaborate on "preview file" if you mean the ability to preview a video by shift clicking on it then that works fine here but I feel like you mean something else. I don't think I am using the latest version of QTTabBar either and am not using the beta version of WindowTop at the moment either. There is one minor issue I have noticed but I don't think it is the same as the ones you have mentioned.

@gileli121 I'm sorry to say but Windows 11 is terrible and its tabbed file explorer is light years behind QTTabBar which is incredibly sad considering QTTabBar has been around for decades in some form or another and rarely gets updated, it also does a lot more than just tabbed explorer. It's actually really nice once you set it up. I feel like its an essential piece of software much like WindowTop. If Microsoft lifted your ideas and attempted to do what you have done with WindowTop does I am certain Microsoft's implementation would be vastly inferior too.

I don't know if it is possible to isolate specific conflicts by blacklist as I imagine you'd have to blacklist explorer which would limit you a fair bit in terms of what you could then so with WindowTop.

Yes, this is indeed a piece of software that I like. But my favorite feature of QTTabBar is the file preview feature and plugins etc...

What I use is that the preview function is automatically turned on after the mouse cursor moves to the target -- I have not turned on the "Show only with Shift key down" option in the QTTabBar option.

gileli121 commented 1 year ago

It seems that QTTabBar is a thing... I was just aware of this app a few days ago. I will look more into this. But currently, I am working on this plan: https://github.com/WindowTop/WindowTop-App/issues/287

I already finish developing the crop feature. Now I am working on #283, and after that, on #63 So unfortunately, I don't have time to troubleshoot this issue, but I will do it when I get time.

The last big compatibility issue I fixed was with Chromium-based browsers like google chrome, edge, and it was hard.

Mystqr4 commented 1 year ago

It seems that QTTabBar is a thing... I was just aware of this app a few days ago. I will look more into this. But currently, I am working on this plan: #287

I already finish developing the crop feature. Now I am working on #283, and after that, on #63 So unfortunately, I don't have time to troubleshoot this issue, but I will do it when I get time.

The last big compatibility issue I fixed was with Chromium-based browsers like google chrome, edge, and it was hard.

QTTabBar is probably one of if not the oldest tabbed explorer addon out. It's easy to forget about it since it doesn't get updated often.

That's fine. I don't mind waiting. I hope you manage to reach all your goals soon. Keep up the great work.

2012send commented 1 year ago

It's okay, I don't mind waiting.

QTTabBar and WindowTop are two of my favorite computer software.

Have a nice day 😀😀