CJ4: Missing Bearing Pointers

[e4rthdog]

DMEs are nowhere to be found for both VORs.

[kaosfere]

Not sure what you mean with this one... are you seeing missing distance information for VORs somewhere? Is this for the G1000?

Thanks!

[e4rthdog]

Sorry that i did not make it clear.

I tune a VOR that is reachable but i dont see the DME distance number nowhere. Also i don't see needles for the VOR (i dont know if this is normal in this aircraft). I only see the needle that moves when i change the VOR course.

[jonasbeaver]

Page 60 on the G1000 manual https://static.garmincdn.com/pumac/190-00498-07_0A_Web.pdf

Press the pfd softkey at the bottom of the pfd then press brg1 or brg1 to set up the bearing mode on either side. In the real G1000 the default mode is vor1 on brg1 and vor2 on brg2. The default mode in the msfs g1000 is off for both.

This is a user error that is magnified by non-standard defaults in the msfs g1000.

[e4rthdog]

I am talking about the CJ4 not the G1000. In CJ4 i cant see the number of NM for the DME for VARs and i dont see needles.

[mattnischan]

There definitely should be needles (we noticed this also), and I assume distance. That's something we'll definitely take a look at.

[e4rthdog]

There definitely should be needles (we noticed this also), and I assume distance. That's something we'll definitely take a look at.

Thank you very much. Waiting for that. Keep up the good work.

[cwburnett]

from @ccapilot When you select to display the bearing pointers (to VOR) in the CJ4, they do not appear, any chance to fix that please? Also the very important DME information is lacking from the CJ4, I hope you can fix that as well.

thanks for the great work you are doing to help us with these fixes.

[cwburnett]

From @Mekein Basically, when shooting an ILS app, there is no information about distance to runway (DME) in the PDF. Not entirely sure if in default CJ4 its also missing, will try later.

Also, first time posting here trying to figure out tags, labels etc..

[cwburnett]

From ryanbatcund on Avsim:

Is there a way to get the HSI now? I think before one would press FRMT. There seems to be a difference between the TUN page and what is shown when I turn on BRG pointers. Essentially, I cannot tune a VOR and use the HSI anymore.

Looks like the FMS TUN page is disconnected from the NAV1/NAV2 readout on the PFD/MFD.

[e4rthdog]

Any chance to give this task some love , in order to be able to fly VOR/DMEs?

[mattnischan]

We've started to take a look at it, yes. Some of these tasks will be a bit slow going. Almost all of the PFD and MFD display code is shared by every jet in the game, so it's been challenging to make the changes we need to safely while maintaining compatibility with other mods and not breaking the default aircraft.

But it is definitely on the list!

[e4rthdog]

I was glad to see today that you added DME for the VORs... Just to make sure, you will also add the VOR needles?

[cwburnett]

@e4rthdog can you confirm what you mean by needles? Something other than this?

https://i.imgur.com/EZKA836.jpeg

What's there right now is the HSI 'needle' in cyan. This is the wrong size and color right now, and that's on our list, but want to confirm you should be seeing the HSI when tuned to a VOR.

[e4rthdog]

@e4rthdog can you confirm what you mean by needles? Something other than this?

https://i.imgur.com/EZKA836.jpeg

What's there right now is the HSI 'needle' in cyan. This is the wrong size and color right now, and that's on our list, but want to confirm you should be seeing the HSI when tuned to a VOR.

The HSI is there indeed.

I am talking about the straight arrows that show to the VOR/ADF....I just dont know if the avionics of CJ4 has them..

See the green and blue on the following pic

[K20017]

Oh, those are called Bearing Pointers and it is on our list to implement. It is normally adjusted in the PFD MENU -> BRG SRC and it looks like this: https://imgur.com/a/JEqzIUz

[e4rthdog]

Oh, those are called Bearing Pointers and it is on our list to implement. It is normally adjusted in the PFD MENU -> BRG SRC and it looks like this: https://imgur.com/a/JEqzIUz

Perfect! Thank you guys for your efforts!

[mattnischan]

Hi all,

Since DME information was addressed in #133, I am going to slightly edit the title of this to reflect. Thanks all!

[bachian]

I glad to know you are already working on BRG needles. Whithout them, it's impossible to do some kind of IFR approaches.

[e4rthdog]

Any more concrete news as to when we can expect to have the ability for VOR approaches?

[mattnischan]

Bearing pointers will not be in 0.5.0. Unfortunately, we will have to create them entirely from scratch, as no support at all exists for them in the aircraft as is. Asobo left a placeholder but clearly never finished it.

[Frolic31]

Hello, Glad to see that you're working on it. It's so sad to be unable to perform an NDB final or to set route on a VOR... Thanks for all you do, you C14 mod is just awesome.

[mattnischan]

Implemented in #352