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AC-3 5.1 always defaults to AAC + AC-3 even if Perian is not installed? #722

Closed GoogleCodeExporter closed 9 years ago

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago 
What steps will reproduce the problem?
1. I create a new file.
2. I press "+" to add tracks from an existing mp4, that contains AC-3 5.1 
tracks.
3. The default action for AC-3 5.1 tracks is always "AAC + AC-3", even if 
Perian is not installed.

What is the expected output? What do you see instead?
I believe Perian is needed for such conversions. I could not get that to work 
on my iMac. So now I expect (because Perian is not installed) that the default 
action for AC-3 5.1 tracks is "Passthru" when I am adding tracks.

What version of the product are you using? On what operating system?
0.25 on iMac with OS X Mavericks.

Please provide any additional information below.
I would LOVE to be able to create two ACC+AC3 tracks from 1 AC3 track, but 
Perian is not working for me. Also it appears they stopped their development. 
So now I am ripping twice:

1) Once with HD video and ACC stereo audio and external subtitles.
2) Once with a copy of the video track from Blu-Ray and AC3 5.1 audio without 
subtitles.

With Subler I copy

1) All tracks (video, ACC stereo track(s), chapter track) from rip #1 in 
Passthru (is already the default).
2) Only the AC3 5.1 audio tracks from rip #2 (unfortunately Subler selects 
ACC+AC3 as a default action - should be Passthru if Perian is not installed).
3) All subtitle tracks from the external idx file that came with rip #1.

Now I would love to have 1 button to tick the checkboxes of all tracks in 1 go 
(I believe this request is on your radar already).

Original issue reported on code.google.com by ar...@hiemstras.net on 28 Jan 2014 at 12:53

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago 
There is a fix on the faq page, and you can change the default option in the 
preferences.

Original comment by damiog on 28 Jan 2014 at 7:53

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago 
Ah, now it works. Great stuff. I had to use the folder under /Library not the 
one under ~/Library.

Here is a workflow I use with DVDFab. Perhaps it is useful to other users:

1.  Install Subler.
2.  Run Subler for the first time.
3.  Copy the folder with Tesseract 3.02 language files to ~/Library/Application 
Support/Subler. This means a folder with the name "tessdata" should be in that 
location.
4.  Install Perian by double clicking the preference pane in Perian_1.2.3.dmg.
5.  Go to the preferene pane for Perian and set it to:
    o Audio output: Stereo
    o Play soft sounds: Normally
    o Subtitle options: Load external Subtitles
6.  Then locate A52Codec.component on your system. It should either be in 
/Library/Audio/Plug-Ins/Components or ~/Library/Audio/Plug-Ins/Components.
7.  Save the existing version to somewhere
8.  Use the new version and copy it to this location.
9.  NOTE: When you use "REMOVE PERIAN" in the Perian preference pane, this will 
also remove the A52Codec.component. If you install it again, it will have the 
wrong component, so you have to do steps 6-8 again.
10. Now go to Subler and use the following preferences:
    o GENERAL
      - ON Check for update: Automatically check daily
      - ON Window: Remember size
      - ON Chapters: Create Preview Images
      - Show ratings for: All countries
    o ADVANCED
      - ON Alternate groups: Keep groups organised
      - ON Convert: Vobsub to Tx3g
      - ON AC-3 audio to AAC
      - ON Keep AC-3
      - Downmix audio to STEREO
      - Bitrate (per channel): 96 kbps
11. In DVDFab, select the title and audio/subtitles you want to include in the 
rip.
12. Select the "MP4 AppleTV" profile (custom profile).
    o This will set the video track to HD and 1-pass/normal
    o This will set the audio track to AC-3 5.1
    o This will set the subtitles to externally generated subtitles
13. Rip the DVD/Blu-Ray with these settings.
14. In Subler, open a new file.
15. Add the ripped file containing video, AC-3 audio and chapter track.
    o The AC-3 track should have the action "AAC + AC-3", which means the AC-3 will be included (passthru) and this will generate an additional AAC-Stereo track.
16. Subsequently import the IDX file for the subtitles.
    o The Subtitles should have the action "Vobsub to Tx3g", which makes this AppleTV compatible.
17. Press the loupe icon to query the film in MoveDB and select the desired 
artwork.
18. Delete any other artwork.
19. Submit the Subler command to the queue.
20. When ready, drag the file into iTunes.
21. When ready, in iTunes, look at the Metadata and change something.
    o This will trigger a one-time and somewhat lengthy process that alters the file according to iTunes specs.
22. Done! Check in iTunes that all desired audio tracks and subtitles are 
present by playing the file.

Original comment by ar...@hiemstras.net on 28 Jan 2014 at 4:47

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago 
And why are you "changing something" in iTunes?

Original comment by damiog on 29 Jan 2014 at 4:53

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago 
Well normally you can prepare everything in Subler.

I live in a german speaking country and my children know the name of the movies 
by their German title. So that is how I store them in Subler/iTunes.

My brother is also ripping some movies and some of them I already have. He is 
an all-english person. So that is why I change the title to the original 
English title in iTunes and then I copy the movie to an USB stick.

What also happens is that I sometimes forget to change the album or I forget to 
delete an artwork picture in Subler. Then I open the file that was just copied 
to iTunes and change it in iTunes, which causes the long delay.

Original comment by ar...@hiemstras.net on 29 Jan 2014 at 8:23

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago 
The funny thing is: If after you created the output file with Subler, you open 
the resulting m4v AGAIN in subler, but you do not change anything, just check 
all checkboxes, and then SAVE (not send to queue) the file, this is a pretty 
fast save and the result is that iTunes now does not need to rearrange things. 
So after the open/save in Subler you can drag the file to iTunes and edit 
Metadata in iTunes without having to wait!

I guess Subler does not entirely optimise the file correctly but is able to do 
that on the 2nd open/save.

Original comment by ar...@hiemstras.net on 30 Jan 2014 at 4:09

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago 
I created a separate issue for the metadata edit issue in iTunes. I think this 
is a m4v formatting issue in the 1st mux that Subler does.

https://code.google.com/p/subler/issues/detail?id=727&thanks=727

Original comment by ar...@hiemstras.net on 30 Jan 2014 at 4:27

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago 
You may close this issue as I understand how the preferences work now and 
Perian together with the A52codec fixed the AAC + AC-3 issue. Thanks!

Original comment by ar...@hiemstras.net on 30 Jan 2014 at 4:28

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago

Original comment by damiog on 4 Nov 2014 at 9:21