bruceravel
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12 years ago Hi there,
You point is valid. I am surprised, though, that you took the effort to read the archives of the mailing list, then sent your comment via github. You github issue only got reported to me. The mailing list, one the other hand, is read by everyone involved in the standardization effort.
It is a little hard for me to know what else to do with your comment. I don't know who you are or what your name is. I don't know at which beamline or synchrotron you work. There is no contact information associated with your github log-in name, so I have no way of engaging you in meaningful conversation. Sigh....
B
On Thursday, January 05, 2012, 05:56:27 pm, minkwe wrote:
At our macromolecular crystallography beamlines, we have recently added the capability to do EXAFS on protein crystal samples. The interesting question for us which we hoped XDI would answer is: "What is the standard data format for interchange of raw EXAFS data"?
However, after reading the mailing lists, I got the impression that XDI use for raw data was actively discouraged and it is not obvious from the specs if I'm allowed to add my own column labels to add additional columns for raw counts and count rates, etc in order to preserve information which although non-"standard", might be useful in some cases and would be lost otherwise.
It will be a pity if authors of data collection software have to target additional ad-hoc data formats to enable interchange of raw data collected at their beamlines, when "XAS-Data-Interchange" format already exists.
My suggestion would be that it is fine to target "processed data" but do not develop a spec that forbids "raw data". The greatest catalyst for adoption is "users want it" and given the frustration I have heard from users dealing with multitudes of raw data file formats, supporting XDI for raw data will be a bonus.
Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/XraySpectroscopy/XAS-Data-Interchange/issues/22
Bruce Ravel ------------------------------------ bravel@bnl.gov
National Institute of Standards and Technology Synchrotron Methods Group at NSLS --- Beamlines U7A, X24A, X23A2 Building 535A Upton NY, 11973
My homepage: http://xafs.org/BruceRavel EXAFS software: http://cars9.uchicago.edu/~ravel/software/exafs/
michel4j
At our macromolecular crystallography beamlines, we have recently added the capability to do EXAFS on protein crystal samples. The interesting question for us which we hoped XDI would answer is: "What is the standard data format for interchange of raw EXAFS data"?
However, after reading the mailing lists, I got the impression that XDI use for raw data was actively discouraged and it is not obvious from the specs if I'm allowed to add my own column labels to add additional columns for raw counts and count rates, etc in order to preserve information which although non-"standard", might be useful in some cases and would be lost otherwise.
It will be a pity if authors of data collection software have to target additional ad-hoc data formats to enable interchange of raw data collected at their beamlines, when "XAS-Data-Interchange" format already exists.
My suggestion would be that it is fine to target "processed data" but do not develop a spec that forbids "raw data". The greatest catalyst for adoption is "users want it" and given the frustration I have heard from users dealing with multitudes of raw data file formats, supporting XDI for raw data will be a bonus.