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Website, lobby launcher and server, steam deployment, .NET based tools and other vital parts of Zero-K infrastructure
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Communication to players / steam users is not honest #1166

Closed knorker closed 8 years ago

knorker commented 8 years ago

devs continue to give impression that the game is almost ready to be released on steam and that soon there will be many many players, and that only polishing is needed. Actually the game is no closer to being release-worthy than it was 3 years ago, there are multiple different lobby-systems in parallel development, every new version of zero-k.exe lobby bombs online playercount into single digits on weekends.

How to fix: Stop promising things and and stop weasling around and post an honest update on situation.

Licho1 commented 8 years ago

I'm simply following this plan https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_l117qQxgc8lk8D66oPFIWjngl7cWKnsMoIdHIDuiSI/edit#gid=0

Don't recall promising imminent steam release in recent months.

knorker commented 7 years ago

I'm simply following this plan https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_l117qQxgc8lk8D66oPFIWjngl7cWKnsMoIdHIDuiSI/edit#gid=0

It is your honest opinion: "Multiplayer GUI 100% finished" ?

Licho1 commented 7 years ago

for lobby? Yes

knorker commented 7 years ago

"ZKL" is not even to be used anymore, how can it be finished

Licho1 commented 7 years ago

Chobby = Zero-K lobby

knorker commented 7 years ago

zeroK lobby = Zero-K lobby springweblobby = Zero-K lobby new rewrite = Zero-K lobby Chobby = Zero-K lobby

and it was always "GUI 100%" ...lol?

I assume the open issues are to make it go to 200%

knorker commented 7 years ago

mission campaign: what people were told:

"KingRaptor is making a singleplayer campaign and seems to be pumping out missions. "

"We already have some tutorial missions and campaigns - not yet integrated - but more need to be written and they will all require some polishing. "

"We want to release something at least with decent and easy to find local singleplayer. The content for this is fairly advanced, we have some pretty good skirmish AIs and quite a few missions have been produced."

Actual situation: work had long stopped

Histidine91 commented 7 years ago

I like how you don't bother linking the actual posts because you either knew the timestamps would show your insinuation to be utterly false, or just didn't care if it was false.

"KingRaptor is making a singleplayer campaign and seems to be pumping out missions." 2016-06-11 (5 months ago)

"We want to release something at least with decent and easy to find local singleplayer. The content for this is fairly advanced, we have some pretty good skirmish AIs and quite a few missions have been produced." 2016-02-17 (9 months ago)

"We already have some tutorial missions and campaigns - not yet integrated - but more need to be written and they will all require some polishing." 2016-10-26 (16 days ago)

Work dates:

So I guess by "had long [stopped]" you mean "in the future".

The last two quotes would also be entirely true even if I'd stopped work on campaign three years prior.

At this point it's clear to me that you're not in the least bit interested in whether your accusations against the team contain any truth whatsoever. Coupled with your recent history of shitposting in general, I think we can dispense with your presence on the project.