remove vpn bans and allow votes on high(er) lobby rank (=ingame time) only

[abma]

vpn ban imo is just a workaround for missing restrictions for autohosts. new users should have a lot of less rights on autohosts, this would make it more desireable to keep a lobby account / get a higher rank.

http://springrts.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=32738

[Licho1]

There is a rank limit for commands. VPN is there to block people like anteep who use it to avoid bans.. It has nothing to do with voting afaik..

[abma]

make the ban only for zk-autohosts and not server-wide?

[Licho1]

Damage done can be global though, for example chat spam. Afaik there was an issue with one specific block which is fixed now. In the future ZK will have mandatory SP campaign to play before you can enter MP - that will decrease ned for this as well.

[Orfelius]

Licho I hope you dont mean the whole sunrise campaign :| as this one will be quite long and people just want to play the game online! Instead of trobbling trough campaign missions.

[Licho1]

Playing online would be possible just not on "official" team game servers... Do you think its still overkill?

[Orfelius]

Well mandatory tutorial would help a lot and it doesnt seem to be opposed too much in LoL (sorry i cant think of another game with mandatory tutorial) but i think that mandatory playing trough all of the campaign is definetly too much as ZK focuses more on online play than missions. Right now Sunrise campaign has ~4h of content and this is only 1 finished branch :| with more that will be added (at some point) Oh and that is if you dont fail any missions, wich is not that easy in some cases. Besides at current rate I am rather sceptical if King Raptor will manage to finish the campaign until evantuall Steam launch.

[Anarchid]

While ZK accounts can be made costly (with steam, mandatory sp, whatever), that won't work for things like mass PM spam. The options seem to be:

• a global way of getting rid of such people (e.g, what NW does atm, but possibly in other ways, such as inside Uberserver)
• moving ZK to a separate server instance with "expensive" account creation
• making default Uberserver account creation "expensive" (mandatory email, limit per time per IP, whatever)

Even with their grand total of 10 people playing multiplayer, 0ad already has a much stricter policy than Spring! You can't just fire a script and get 1000 accounts in a minute.

[Orfelius]

"moving ZK to a separate server instance with "expensive" account creation" "making default Uberserver account creation "expensive" (mandatory email, limit per time per IP, whatever)" There has been talki abaut this for quite some time and i would love to see it finally happen. BTW does really someone play 0 A.D. multiplayer? I thought that it is barely playable because of poor optimalisation and thus low FPS.

[Anarchid]

An infiltration team was dispatched to their xmpp-based lobbyserver that is vastly ideologically superior to irc-based lobby server of spring to investigate the issue. Around ten people were present. Since i was not using 0ad proper to connect to the server, but rather Pidgin, i was not able to investigate how many active games there were, as Pidgin was not able to understand the XMuPPet stanzas.

OTR encryption was used by the infiltration team to maintain secrecy.