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A GM13 Nazi Zombies style (WIP) gamemode
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BO3 Stamin-Up #626

Open Napalmburner opened 6 years ago

Napalmburner commented 6 years ago

Since we're going the BO3 route with nZombies...

In Black Ops 3, Stamin-Up was changed from it's previous renditions. In detail:

BO1-BO2 Stamin-Up raised your sprint speed by 7%, and gave you longer sprint.

BO3 Stamin-Up raised your sprint speed by 7%, removed movement speed penalty on ALL guns, and gave you longer sprint.

A good example of the removal of movement speed penalty was on the Death Machine powerup for BO3. Normally, if you sprint with that, you move quite slowly and can barely outrun a sprinting zombie. Buy Stamin-Up, and suddenly you can run super fast and out run a TranZit sprinter. (okay maybe not)

I don't have a clue on how to do this for nZombies, but it has got to have something to do with Stamin-Up itself. Maybe add a staminup modifier that sets the speed penalty of CW 2.0 and TFA guns to 0? I don't know.

In order to emulate the effect of this, I just raised the speed boost from 300-350 units to 300-375 units. It doesn't really do much, but it feels more like BO3. I'm not making a PR just for this small change. I would if I added a modifier, though.

Just an idea.

minin43 commented 6 years ago

Is zet0r going BO3 with this?

Seems more like a mix to me.

Napalmburner commented 6 years ago

@minin43

It looks like he is, what with the 3-hit system, weaker but faster hitting zombies, and possibly BO3 kino models? Might as well just add BO3 Stamin-Up too.

minin43 commented 6 years ago

I've never quite bothered with BO3 zombies because of how shit the game is otherwise, and as a fan of the original zombies, all the new features they're adding in with gumballs 'n shit just seems like such a turn-off.

I know CW2.0 weapons have a single variable set for weapon weight which can easily be set to 0. I'm not opposed to that idea.

Zet0rz commented 6 years ago

Since we're going the BO3 route with nZombies...

BO3 is definitely my favorite game in terms of Zombies, but I am not strictly going for BO3 in general, it is more of a mix like mentioned. I like the 3-hit system better than the 2-hit because it could sometimes seem unfair, but that's about the only major difference in the two. Everything else I just go with whatever feels best. Models I am making are from BO3 just because the game is newer, the models will be higher quality.

As to Stamin-Up, I'm not sure if we can apply modifiers to the weapon slowdown speeds, the way they work can be very different between the various weapon bases. Perhaps just upping the speed to make it feel like that, but as I said, I'm going mostly with a feeling rather than numbers.

The key thing is that I am trying to balance this relative to Gmod, not to CoD.

Napalmburner commented 6 years ago

@Zet0rz

okay. Staminup could use a speed boost tho, so maybe make it 375 units instead of 350? It just seems better.