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utterances-bot commented 2 years ago

The Perfect Laptop | Obiter dictum

https://blog.stulta.dev/posts/the_perfect_laptop/

aae42 commented 2 years ago

testing the commenting system out... NEAT 👍

duck-nukem commented 1 year ago

My wishlist is something similar! I think a great screen makes the most difference. I have an M1 Air (my true love) and a ThinkPad L13 Gen 2 (AMD) which I absolutely despise, it just doesn't even come near to how good is it to use the air. It's bulky, the screen is washed out, the keyboard is meh, the touchpad sometimes doesn't recognise taps, and so on. I've totally became an apple fanboy once I bought my first MacBook (also the 2015 Pro in 2018 - because I wanted a Dell XPS and that was 2x the price of the MBP for some reason, so I went with the cheaper one)

aae42 commented 1 year ago

I probably need to update this for M2 Airs (everyone says how nice they are)

Also the x13s is junk, somewhat unsurprisingly. I'm still glad it came out, and Qualcomm's Nuvia chips are supposed to be out by the end of the year.

Meanwhile Framework has made more progress on AMD boards and larger screen options (the latter I'm uninterested in). If the Nuvia CPUs take off I wonder if that's on the radar for framework.

aae42 commented 1 year ago

My wishlist is something similar! I think a great screen makes the most difference. I have an M1 Air (my true love) and a ThinkPad L13 Gen 2 (AMD) which I absolutely despise, it just doesn't even come near to how good is it to use the air. It's bulky, the screen is washed out, the keyboard is meh, the touchpad sometimes doesn't recognise taps, and so on. I've totally became an apple fanboy once I bought my first MacBook (also the 2015 Pro in 2018 - because I wanted a Dell XPS and that was 2x the price of the MBP for some reason, so I went with the cheaper one)

The only other post on this blog is an attempt to quantify what makes those nice to use, and attempt to explain it to people who don't notice or understand

virtualritz commented 1 year ago

I bought a RedMiBook Pro 15 2022 Ryzen + Nvidia edition last year. Yeah, it's 15" so that's the main hair in the soup. It's About 1.2k EUR. I run Linux and Windows on it, everything works. very high res 3.2x2k 400nits screen. HDMI, 1x USB, 2x USB-C, SD-card reader, combo 3.5mm headphone jack. I think the new model from 2023 also has an RJ45. Case is milled from dark aluminum and build quality close enough to Apple that you need to be a professional product designer to find differences. For me it's the closest non-Apple machine I ever had to a perfect laptop. Touchpad has great hardware but getting it close to feel the same as Apple required lots of tweaking on Linux and Windows is simple not even close.

SleepyBrett commented 1 year ago

The Macbook Pro 14" m2 is my current ideal laptop. The only difference from the M1 line is the re-inclusion of magsafe for charging (though you can still use usbc if you want), the reintroduction of a hardwired HDMI port (one less usbc/hdmi cable in my bag, how many times have I arrived at a conference room and had forgotten the cable/adapter), and the removal of the touchbar (what a failed experiment that was).

The repairability still sucks, apple's obstinance in not allowing some kind of 'removable/replaceable without a soldering iron' storage and (to a lesser extent) ram is deeply frustrating.

... also why doesn't anyone else have a touchpad even half as good as apples? it's a serious question.

spartanatreyu commented 1 year ago

Keyboards on laptops, hard to explain how to make them good, but easy to explain how to make them bad.

What laptops are left?

Thinkpad is one that comes to mind...

aae42 commented 1 year ago

I bought a RedMiBook Pro 15 2022 Ryzen + Nvidia edition last year. Yeah, it's 15" so that's the main hair in the soup. It's About 1.2k EUR. I run Linux and Windows on it, everything works. very high res 3.2x2k 400nits screen. HDMI, 1x USB, 2x USB-C, SD-card reader, combo 3.5mm headphone jack. I think the new model from 2023 also has an RJ45. Case is milled from dark aluminum and build quality close enough to Apple that you need to be a professional product designer to find differences. For me it's the closest non-Apple machine I ever had to a perfect laptop. Touchpad has great hardware but getting it close to feel the same as Apple required lots of tweaking on Linux and Windows is simple not even close.

these are not on my radar! thanks for letting me know about them, i did look at the xiaomi ones at one point but figured all the weirdness with the chinese government maybe try to avoid...

i've also learned about the CHUWI laptops since i made these blog posts

erwin commented 1 year ago

Another laptop for consideration, the Thinkbook 14+ (2023)

Small form factor (almost same dimensions as my XPS13), 32GB Ram, m.2 slot for another HDD, matte screen, HDMI port, Ethernet port, 4 USB-A ports, 2 USB-C port.

Excellent device so far.

peterberbec commented 1 year ago

I can highly recommend the Lenovo X1 Nano. I have the gen 1 version, and it's about as close to perfect a machine as I've ever owned. Tough, fast, light, bright colorful screen, great keyboard and trackpoint. If the gen2 improves upon anything over the Gen1, it must be a wonder to use.