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Disconnect of communication between CG and TF #2071

Closed HelenBurge closed 1 year ago

HelenBurge commented 1 year ago

There has been a gradual breakdown of communication between the task force and community group. This is often highlighted by pull requests where the TF have discussed and agreed from reviews in https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1OSkPFocXk4K3zYLnwS78WLsWO4PvE5yRcsauyefuIUI/edit#gid=1605073031 and then discussed in a meeting, and the action items done in the PR: https://github.com/act-rules/act-rules.github.io/pull/2064

As seen from the comments from @Jym77 some decisions made are not clear to the community group.

We also have had issues of large changes being discussed and agreed, without getting agreement from CG until items are in progress.

It would be good to get a more formal way of sharing information. We used to rely on one person to share information, but maybe a more formal process would be good?

Please suggest ideas for ways we can improve the current situation.

Jym77 commented 1 year ago

From my point of view (hat on: CG person that tend to review every PR), I often see the following effects:

WilcoFiers commented 1 year ago

This has been put on the agenda for Thursday's TF call. I'll wait with comments until that conversation has happened.

HelenBurge commented 1 year ago

From comments made in the meeting:

  1. The PR format needs to be updated to add more background information.
  2. The main items from Task Force are not always discussed as items are suggested for the agenda but may not be discussed - agreed that Helen will let CG chairs know when items are important to have at the top of the agenda.
  3. The big items are being discussed via GitHub and both sides feel heard. However, it might be good to have a mixed meeting when the back and forths are not progressing as expected. This will be done when deemed important.
  4. CG chairs agree with most - but would like more focus on documenting items as easier to keep up. To not use issues/pull requests but discussion threads.
WilcoFiers commented 1 year ago

We've invited the CG chairs to join ACT TF for a conversation on this topic for the June 29th call.

daniel-montalvo commented 1 year ago

Discussion in our TF 29 June meeting

WilcoFiers commented 1 year ago

The main issue we've discovered is that not enough background information is included. Going forward PRs that come from ACT TF will link to the survey. Resolutions from discussing should be included in the pull requests as well. Going forward the liaison of a rule will take notes on what changes are requested, which should hopefully prevent confusion about what changes were requested.

We're going to try this updated process and are closing this issue. If this proves insufficient we'll revisit.