addshore / wikicrowd

Tool for crowd sourced micro edits for Wikimedia
https://wikicrowd.toolforge.org/
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Cat shown in game that was marked as subspecies of cat before #85

Open PiotrGackowski opened 1 year ago

PiotrGackowski commented 1 year ago

Today I got https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:THA_%D0%A8%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA_%D0%B8%D0%B7_%D0%A2%D0%B0%D0%B9%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%94%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B0%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%B8_(4498887257).jpg&action=history in game about cats. Problem is that I marked this image with https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q42732 in January. So I should not get this image in game.

On margin - I probably finished all cats. Yes - all cats. It took me 4 months but now only new images should be shown. Or I am thinking that this is true :)

addshore commented 1 year ago

Did you try getting wikicrowd to make an edit? Currently, questions are pre generated based on the state of information at the time of generation. Questions are then mostly randomly selected, this means some can actually be in the queue for quite some time. Infomation on commons or wikidata can change in this time a question its in the queue, but the question will still always be posed to a user. However, if the users answer results in an edit that is no redundant, it will not be made by wikicrowd.

PiotrGackowski commented 1 year ago

@addshore Two things - yes, I was being able to save edits by wikicrowd. You can see this in the history of the image - the last edit with "cat" is done by wikicrowd. And previous edit is done by me using AC/DC.

Second - I am 100% sure that this was not a stale proposition. In the history of the image, you can see that the previous edit was done in January. In meantime I was many times clearing the whole queue for "cat", around my report it was daily (sometimes two times per day). My goal was to finish all cats, so this was important to me.

addshore commented 1 year ago

Looking at the 2 edits however, https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q42732 is an instance of cat breed which I have a feeling doesn't directly link back to 'cat via the expected paths I think something like this was touched on in another open issue already? but I can't see or find it right now If not maybe we should re open this as there is probably a way to also exclude adding things like this, we just need a way to connect the cat tree of entities with the cat breed tree.

I guess using this relation

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The queries in question right now are at https://github.com/addshore/wikicrowd/blob/2238e2a539629100cf28a67713ab355bb1465b4c/app/Jobs/GenerateDepictsQuestions.php#L212-L238 Which are used to look for more specific and less specific depicts statements, so that the current one should not be proposed https://github.com/addshore/wikicrowd/blob/2238e2a539629100cf28a67713ab355bb1465b4c/app/Jobs/GenerateDepictsQuestions.php#L280-L288

So this query needs to be modified to include specific breeds for cat, and I also guess for other animals if we want wikicrowd to stop adding them https://query.wikidata.org/#SELECT%20DISTINCT%20%3Fi%20WHERE%7B%3Fi%20wdt%3AP31%2Fwdt%3AP279%2a%7Cwdt%3AP279%2Fwdt%3AP279%2a%20wd%3AQ146%20%7D In theroy we should also modify the other query which is used to generate the depics refine statement, but the above one is the core query for this issue

addshore commented 1 year ago

Comparing cameras and cats for example

Cameras all seem to link up to "Camera" via the sub and super classes and instances

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Cats and breeds are 1 step away

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