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琶 (U+7436) and 瑟 (U+745F) need adjustments for CN #383

Open Marcus98T opened 1 year ago

Marcus98T commented 1 year ago

琶 (U+7436) is missing a CN glyph. The top left 王 part must be the same as the top right part according to 新字形, so the JP form cannot be used. Serif has the CN form, however.

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I reported on 琶 before as quoted above, but recently I also found out that 瑟 requires a new CN glyph, as explained before.

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Accordingly, I will modify my previous post #374 to strike out the quoted text and make a note that this issue will supersede it.

punchcutter commented 1 year ago

Interesting. Neither of these need a new CN glyph because they both have CN glyphs, but they are 100% identical to the JP glyph. I think U+745F can just use uni745FuE0101-JP and we can drop the existing CN glyph.

Marcus98T commented 1 year ago

I see, I didn't know that 瑟 (U+745F) already has an appropriate JP variant glyph for CN use. And it's just weird that there's two identical glyphs for 琶 (U+7436) at CIDs 26577 (JP) and 26578 (CN). Thus an adjustment would be needed for 琶 at CID 26578.

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NightFurySL2001 commented 1 year ago

It is noted that this seem to be a regression from v1 (show v1.004 below). image

Marcus98T commented 1 year ago

Well based on the previous reply, the CN glyphs were adjusted in v2, copying direct from the corresponding JP glyphs by mistake.

But still, to unify the 心/必 component to the JP aesthetic I suggest to continue using uni745FuE0101-JP for CN, and remove the current uni745F-CN glyph (or orphan it if the CIDs cannot be changed). uni7436-CN (琶) can be reverted to the v1 glyph. But anyway I think those two characters were already fixed in the source a long time ago as indicated by the "fixed for next version" tag, so I suppose there will be no more changes because it would probably be a headache for the maintainer to keep checking.

On another note, in Mainland China, there was a plan to change 44 glyphs to follow traditional calligraphy conventions which is closer to the current TW/HK forms, which included 琶 (U+7436) and 瑟 (U+745F), which would have followed JP/TW/HK forms for those two, but the plan did not go through because it would be too expensive to re-print everything with the new glyphs. Maybe the font designer must have thought the plan went through at that time.