Open agriimony opened 3 years ago
greypixel Jun 12
I’ll play devil’s advocate:
Both an initial penalty, and making the maximum timeframe & multiplier large may discourage new stakers (initially their “return” will be diluted by long term stakers)
Your excellent dashboard 2 tells me that over the last 9 weeks, there has only been one week where unstaking has surpassed staking, and the majority of weeks, staking significantly outpaces unstaking.
Consdering the latter point suggests retaining existing stakers isn’t a problem, should we really be making a move that may discourage new stakers?
greg Jun 18
Would it be possible to commit to a longer staking period and immediately earn the points multiplier? e.g a new user could stake for 18 months and receive 1.3 immediately? so rather than discouraging new users they would be incentivised to commit for longer?
agrimony Jun 19
Actually… I really like this idea! We could simply allow users to set their own cliffs and reward in bonus points accordingly. The only draw back is that we would require a whole new staking contract again I think
If there’s a simple implementation which doesn’t require Re-staking I would be all for it
agrimony Jun 21
Thanks for all the comments everyone. For simplicity, I’ve decided to go with option (1), which is an off-chain tier based reward system which should be simpler to implement in Activate.
Let’s KIV option (2) which I think would be nicer to implement once
we have gotten additional specs compiled which necessitates a new Locker
smart contract
Alternatively, a different approach could be taken where stakers could choose to stake into different Locker
contracts with preset minimum stake times - a longer stake time would reward more points per AST locked
Minimum stake time | % points generated |
---|---|
1 month | 100 |
3 months | 105 |
6 months | 110 |
12 months | 120 |
18 months | 130 |
JBe Jun 24
there are no incentives for stakers to maintain their staking position.
I disagree, the incentive for staking is to direct the protocol and obtain points for doing so.
I am having a difficult time finding the net positive in this AIP.
agrimony Jun 24
Ah should have clarified with the emphasis on maintaining the stake. There is an incentive in staking, but no incentive for long term staking.
For example, after 20 weeks a staker is free to vote, claim and unstake. 4 weeks later he can stake again, vote and claim the same points.
There is currently no reason for stakers to continue maintaining the stake after a longer period (and hence have a vested interest) in the platform.
Summary
Rationale
In the current staking implementation, there are no incentives for stakers to maintain their staking position. Implementing a time-weighted points system will incentivize stakers to remain staked in the platform.
Specification
Points will be generated for voting based on the
timestamp
of the stake. For example, a tier based system which rises quickly and slowly tapers off above 100% could be used to reward stakers who have staked longer without over penalizing new stakers.Credits
Thanks to Roll-Royce88 for bringing this topic up again and suggesting the points pay out table, greg for suggesting to preset the stake time to gain rewards.
Copyright
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