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alexkay / spek

Acoustic spectrum analyser
http://spek.cc
GNU General Public License v3.0
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Linux version is poor #265

Closed csimpi closed 1 year ago

csimpi commented 1 year ago

Hi, thank you for this awesome tool.

Unfortunately, the installation readme doesn't tell what dependencies I need to install in order to compile the package on Linux. You should release binaries for Linux, I think you shouldn't expect all Linux users to pull up all the development packages just for this package.

csimpi commented 1 year ago

@madzohan Yes this is the documentation that doesn't contain the information I am talking about, thx for cooperating with sharing the link to the documentation I was talking about ;)

jlu5 commented 1 year ago

https://github.com/alexkay/spek/blob/master/INSTALL.md#building-from-the-tarball says

To build you will need wxWidgets and FFmpeg packages.

Telling us what distro you're using would be a good start. There's no one package name or command to install system libraries that covers all of Linux.

csimpi commented 1 year ago

@jlu5 seems you are not familiar with linux systems, no worries. So in order to build you need to install many-many development packages, really a lot. Development packages are not available by default and expecting normal users to install all of those just to use the app is unreasonable.

FYI: wxWidgets and FFmpeg packages are not the development packages I am talking about. Those are dependencies that OK to install even for average users, but installing these won't help with compiling.

"There's no one package name or command to install system libraries that cover all of Linux." Ture, that's why I told, offering binaries would be the way to release your app versions.

jlu5 commented 1 year ago

@jlu5 seems you are not familiar with linux systems, no worries. So in order to build you need to install many-many development packages, really a lot. Development packages are not available by default and expecting normal users to install all of those just to use the app is unreasonable.

:roll_eyes: I've worked with Linux systems for almost a decade now. First time I've heard that accusation.

Unfortunately this means we sometimes forget to mention the implied build dependencies :) automake, g++ and friends. But you probably knew that already?

FYI: wxWidgets and FFmpeg packages are not the development packages I am talking about. Those are dependencies that OK to install even for average users, but installing these won't help with compiling.

"There's no one package name or command to install system libraries that cover all of Linux." Ture, that's why I told, offering binaries would be the way to release your app versions.

256 is probably the best bet. The binary packages for spek have kind of rotted in recent years as activity moved between a couple of forks and then back to this repo. FFmpeg breakages definitely did not help. spek got reintroduced in Debian for instance very recently (ie this month) after 6 years of inactivity!

csimpi commented 1 year ago

nice explanation of not being able to solve something that many other projects handle with no issue :) even very cross-platform libraries. this is the kinda first time in my life that somebody is trying to explain to be it's impossible to release a package to Linux without manually installing dependencies LOL. Also there's a thing called docker, you could offer a docker instance too :) there are many options to handle this... I mean you're really trying to tell me compiling from source is the ONLY way to release an app to Linux systems? BTW thx, I'll use alternatives of course. I came here to tell you this but seems you considered it as complaining or something and you refuse to make it better.

madzohan commented 1 year ago

I'm neither developer nor maintainer of this project, same user of opensource community world, but not the toxic one like you - who blame everyone of "not being able to solve something", when even not be able to provide normal details about his problem :man_facepalming: ... if you know about Docker - you should know about such things like: 1) your system info; 2) logs.

anyway if I were maintainer of this project I would simply forget about your problem and about your rotten personality, wish you good luck further in you meaningless life :kissing_heart:

csimpi commented 1 year ago

@madzohan this is my honest user review, nothing else. I think bumping here only just to insult me and give zero to the convo is very unprofessional and might be worst than my honest but not too positive opinion.

I still think the concern I raised here is legit, and the answers I got so far weren't satisfying, and still looking for answers/solutions.

I don't understand your comment regarding using docker. I am happy to hear if you elaborate it more :)

alexkay commented 1 year ago

Flatpak packages are coming soon, someone else is working on it, see https://github.com/flathub/flathub/pull/3800

Many Linux distros already have Spek packaged in their main or auxiliary repositories. Some package managers allow installing build dependencies if you need them to build a newer/modified version from source, see for example apt build-deps for Debian derivatives.

The link mentioned above has build instructions: https://github.com/alexkay/spek/blob/master/INSTALL.md#building-from-the-tarball

I'm going to close this, I suggest you find another place to ask general Linux questions, for example: https://unix.stackexchange.com/

csimpi commented 1 year ago

@alexkay thank you, and sorry for the intermezzo

illtellyoulater commented 3 months ago

@csimpi is not wrong in stating that build instructions are incomplete.

For example in my case, other than having to find out wxWidgets and FFmpeg specific package names for my distro and installing them, I also had to go through the error logs and understand myself I also had to install autoconf, autopoint, and libtool-bin, which are all not included in the provided building instructions at https://github.com/alexkay/spek/blob/master/INSTALL.md#building-from-the-tarball

...only to find out that I still couldn't compile the code, as the required version of libavformat library is too high and not yet supported in my distro (which has been going under a heavy reworking and is going to be rebased on the last Ubuntu version not sooner than a couple of months).

A Flatpak or AppImage would have solved all of this, yet no one seems to care here.

The lack of those alternatives, coupled with the lack for a complete guide with comprehensive, distro-specific compiling instructions, is the exact recipe to driving new linux users away... Sad to see how in 2024 there are still some of those more seasoned linux users/devs who are failing to realize this aspect, or just don't care about how detrimental this is to the whole linux world.