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indeclinable adjectives should still show adjective tables #513

Open monzug opened 4 years ago

monzug commented 4 years ago

I come across an adjective of 9th declension accordingly to Whitaker: nequior so I do not have any inflection tables icon. same for nēquissimus. related to #28 @balmas, is there anything that can be done here?

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balmas commented 4 years ago

well, the 9th declension isn't really valid is it? We do map 5th-8th conjugations to the irregular conjugation. But that applies to verbs not adjectives. What should this be?

monzug commented 4 years ago

irregular or defective comparison for sure. Unfortunately I do not have other examples. will try all the adjectives in the defective chapters to see if there is any other with 9th declension

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well, the 9th declension isn't really valid is it? We do map 5th-8th conjugations to the irregular conjugation. But that applies to verbs not adjectives. What should this be?

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monzug commented 4 years ago

Whitaker added the 9th declension for all the adjective that are indeclinable. see note 122.b from Allen and Greenough's grammar: A few adjectives are indeclinable.

damnās frūgī (Dative of Service, see § 382.1, Note 2) nēquam (originally an adverb) necesse tot, quot, aliquot, totidem (pronominal forms)

Potis is often used as an indeclinable adjective, but sometimes has pote in the neuter.

I would drop the 9th declension then.

balmas commented 4 years ago

so, should it be NO declension? or one of the existing ones 1st 2nd 3rd ? With no declension we may not get the table.

monzug commented 4 years ago

argh. should not have the declension

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so, should it be NO declension? or one of the existing ones 1st 2nd 3rd ? With no declension we may not get the table.

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balmas commented 4 years ago

I think this one might have to wait for the ability to override morphology. Because not only does Whitaker report it as 9th declension, it also does not report it as superlative. I don't think for #521 we want to remove the check on declension for the adjectives as a whole, only the comparatives and superlatives, right? So just removing the 9th declension isn't going to help us here.

I think supporting the adjective tables for indeclinable adjectives is probably out of scope of what I can do for the incremental release, so I'm going to leave this one for future consideration.

monzug commented 4 years ago

nequissimus does say super in the short definition only. you are right that Whitaker does not add any super to it!

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