ὁρᾱ in verbpdgm22 produces no results

[monzug]

lookup for ὁρᾱ produces no results it should be imperative second person singular in the verbpdgm22 table, Present System Active of Contract Verbs in -άω what should it go there? a mistake in the paradigm tables?

[irina060981]

This word has no results from morphology service https://morph.alpheios.net/api/v1/analysis/word?word=%E1%BD%81%CF%81%E1%BE%B1&engine=morpheusgrc&lang=grc&clientId=embed-lib-index-demo

That's why it won't create inflectionSet and we couldn't see any inflections table. May be it is a question to morphology service?

[balmas]

Or @monzug is the question whether this is really a valid form of the greek word and does it belong in the paradigm table?

I think maybe @vgorman1 might be able to help us here. Vanessa is ὁρᾱ a valid form of ὁράω ? The Mastronarde tables have this listed as the 2nd person singular imperative. Morpheus doesn't find it. Is that an error of Morpheus or the table? Thank you!

[vgorman1]

ὁρᾶ [with a circumflex, not a long mark on the alpha) can be: ὁράω (I know): pres subj act 1st sg (epic doric aeolic) ὁράω (I know): pres ind act 1st sg (epic doric aeolic)

I am guessing you have a stray long mark where the circumflex belongs.

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Or @monzughttps://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_monzug&d=DwMFaQ&c=Cu5g146wZdoqVuKpTNsYHeFX_rg6kWhlkLF8Eft-wwo&r=2H4UzsQahEdH_c1kLxyGAg&m=6e8_0W0tQhU_TJKGlHbaNgB-JJzAN_y10JTyxs5VydE&s=iFJBLo127BdeZi4U_BrYKurcuxrmXtPpbWiQkK59MiQ&e= is the question whether this is really a valid form of the greek word and does it belong in the paradigm table?

I think maybe @vgorman1https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_vgorman1&d=DwMFaQ&c=Cu5g146wZdoqVuKpTNsYHeFX_rg6kWhlkLF8Eft-wwo&r=2H4UzsQahEdH_c1kLxyGAg&m=6e8_0W0tQhU_TJKGlHbaNgB-JJzAN_y10JTyxs5VydE&s=Mnz8GALO_OHnu-MhcrlLtvZcLdZZn9XHEgU90up0Tv4&e= might be able to help us here. Vanessa is ὁρᾱ a valid form of ὁράω ? The Mastronarde tables have this listed as the 2nd person singular imperative. Morpheus doesn't find it. Is that an error of Morpheus or the table? Thank you!

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[balmas]

Thanks @vgorman1 . It could be that the long mark is what's wrong here. Morpheus tells me that ὁρᾶ with a circumflex is the forms you cite above. But it doesn't parse it as the imperative.

Is there a valid second person singular imperative form of this verb?

[vgorman1]

ὅρα: (pres imperat act 2nd sg (epic)) (imperf ind act 3rd sg (homeric ionic)) ὅραε: (pres imperat act 2nd sg (epic)) ὅρη: (pres imperat act 2nd sg (epic doric)) (pres imperat act 2nd sg (doric ionic aeolic)) (imperf ind act 3rd sg (doric)) (imperf ind act 3rd sg (doric ionic aeolic))

These are the present imperative active 2nd singular. There are a bunch of others (plurals and other tenses), but these are the ones most closely matching your form.

I use Diogenes for all my inflective forms.

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Is there a valid second person singular imperative form of this form?

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[balmas]

Thank you @vgorman1 ! This is exactly what I needed :-)

@irina060981 and @monzug I think the fix here then is to remove the long accent mark from ὁρᾱ in the paradigm table. We might also want to add the alternative forms ὅραε and ὅρη to the 2nd imperative singular in that table.

[monzug]

Fantastic. I did try before entering this issue all the variation of opa with accent with not much luck. Thanks.

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 Thank you @vgorman1 ! This is exactly what I needed :-)

@irina060981 and @monzug I think the fix here then is to remove the long accent mark from ὁρᾱ in the paradigm table. We might also want to add the alternative forms ὅραε and ὅρη to the 2nd imperative singular in that table.

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[irina060981]

@balmas, do you mean to change this way ? verbpdgm22 (Present System Active of Contract Verbs in -άω)

[balmas]

I think so, but let's see what @monzug says. I'm not sure if we want to add the additional forms into the table or not.

[monzug]

I would definitely change ὁρᾶ in ὅρα so we can have a match. I am not pro adding the other two, though. it would be a big change from the Mastronarde tables.

[balmas]

ok, let's go with what @monzug says @irina060981

[irina060981]

Merged and closed

[balmas]

webextension 3.0.6-qa.1 (components 1.6.0-dev)

[monzug]

perfect! thanks tested in Firefox Alpheios Reading Tools 3.0.6.97 Alpheios Components 1.6.0-dev