[AMNH Birds SKIN-676019] Pica pica bottanensis - Location and Collector Details

[paintedstork]

I am curious to know if there is any information in this specimen on the details of the collector, or location (more specific) or any expedition details. As you would know this subspecies has been upgraded to a species and hence the increased interest in this specimen from India.

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You can view the original detail page on VertNet. Here are the original record contents:

Term	Value
InstitutionCode	AMNH
CollectionCode	Birds
References	http://portal.vertnet.org/o/amnh/birds?id=skin-676019
BibliographicCitation	American Museum of Natural History. AMNH Bird Collection. Record ID: SKIN-676019. Source: http://ipt.vertnet.org:8080/ipt/resource.do?r=amnh_birds (source published on 2013-10-30)
BasisOfRecord	PreservedSpecimen
VNType	specimen
DCType	PhysicalObject
InstitutionID	urn:lsid:biocol.org:col:34925
CollectionID	urn:lsid:biocol.org:col:34926
Modified	2013-08-20
Language	en
CatalogNumber	SKIN-676019
IndividualCount	1
Sex	male
OccurrenceStatus	present
Preparations	skin
EventDate	Sept ? 26 1904
VerbatimEventDate	Sept ? 26 1904
HigherGeography	;India;;;;;;
Continent	Asia
Country	India
CountryCode	IN
Locality	Chuksan, Tsango Valley
VerbatimLocality	; India; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; Chuksan, Tsango Valley
ScientificName	Pica pica bottanensis
HigherClassification	Animalia;Chordata;Aves;Passeriformes;Corvidae;Pica
Kingdom	Animalia
Phylum	Chordata
Class	Aves
Order	Passeriformes
Family	Corvidae
Genus	Pica
SpecificEpithet	pica
InfraspecificEpithet	bottanensis
TaxonRank	subspecies
NomenclaturalCode	ICZN
UnderivedSex	male

[Samizdat2003]

Written on the back of this skin's label is the note "Collected by L.A. Waddell" and what may be the initials "C.V." (perhaps Charles Vaurie?) There does not appear to be any additional locality data on the label. Waddell’s name is associated in our database with a dozen other skins collected in Tibet in 1904.

I don't seem to be able to post attachments here; if you provide me (trombone@amnh.org) with an email address I will send you the images of the labels.

Regards, Tom

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Thomas J. Trombone Data Manager Division of Vertebrate Zoology - Ornithology American Museum of Natural History Central Park West @ 79th Street New York, NY 10024-5192 Phone: (212) 313-7783 Email: trombone@amnh.org URL: http://www.amnh.org/our-research/vertebrate-zoology/ornithology

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I am curious to know if there is any information in this specimen on the details of the collector, or location (more specific) or any expedition details. As you would know this subspecies has been upgraded to a species and hence the increased interest in this specimen from India.

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You can view the original detail pagehttps://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fportal.vertnet.org%2Fo%2Famnh%2Fbirds%3Fid%3Dskin-676019&data=01%7C01%7Ctrombone%40amnh.org%7C63532316c8bc4404160608d53bff4e3c%7Cbe0003e8c6b9496883aeb34586974b76%7C0&sdata=32yNfE70%2F%2F8R5%2B3EHOMfYlOq3LiM7FaAAUta3Gcvkiw%3D&reserved=0 on VertNet. Here are the original record contents:

  <tr>

    <td>InstitutionCode</td>

    <td id="InstitutionCode">

        AMNH

    </td>

  </tr>

  <tr>

    <td>CollectionCode</td>

    <td id="CollectionCode">

        Birds

    </td>

  </tr>

  <tr>

    <td>References</td>

    <td id="References">

        <a target="_blank" href="http://portal.vertnet.org/o/amnh/birds?id=skin-676019">http://portal.vertnet.org/o/amnh/birds?id=skin-676019</a<http://portal.vertnet.org/o/amnh/birds?id=skin-676019%3c/a>>

    </td>

  </tr>

  <tr>

    <td>BibliographicCitation</td>

    <td id="BibliographicCitation">

        American Museum of Natural History. AMNH Bird Collection. Record ID: SKIN-676019. Source: http://ipt.vertnet.org:8080/ipt/resource.do?r=amnh_birds (source published on 2013-10-30)

    </td>

  </tr>

  <tr>

    <td>BasisOfRecord</td>

    <td id="BasisOfRecord">

        PreservedSpecimen

    </td>

  </tr>

  <tr>

    <td>VNType</td>

    <td id="VNType">

        specimen

    </td>

  </tr>

  <tr>

    <td>DCType</td>

    <td id="DCType">

        PhysicalObject

    </td>

  </tr>

  <tr>

    <td>InstitutionID</td>

    <td id="InstitutionID">

        urn:lsid:biocol.org:col:34925

    </td>

  </tr>

  <tr>

    <td>CollectionID</td>

    <td id="CollectionID">

        urn:lsid:biocol.org:col:34926

    </td>

  </tr>

  <tr>

    <td>Modified</td>

    <td id="Modified">

        2013-08-20

    </td>

  </tr>

  <tr>

    <td>Language</td>

    <td id="Language">

        en

    </td>

  </tr>

  <tr>

    <td>CatalogNumber</td>

    <td id="CatalogNumber">

        SKIN-676019

    </td>

  </tr>

  <tr>

    <td>IndividualCount</td>

    <td id="IndividualCount">

        1

    </td>

  </tr>

  <tr>

    <td>Sex</td>

    <td id="Sex">

        male

    </td>

  </tr>

  <tr>

    <td>OccurrenceStatus</td>

    <td id="OccurrenceStatus">

        present

    </td>

  </tr>

  <tr>

    <td>Preparations</td>

    <td id="Preparations">

        skin

    </td>

  </tr>

  <tr>

    <td>EventDate</td>

    <td id="EventDate">

        Sept ? 26 1904

    </td>

  </tr>

  <tr>

    <td>VerbatimEventDate</td>

    <td id="VerbatimEventDate">

        Sept ? 26 1904

    </td>

  </tr>

  <tr>

    <td>HigherGeography</td>

    <td id="HigherGeography">

        ;India;;;;;;

    </td>

  </tr>

  <tr>

    <td>Continent</td>

    <td id="Continent">

        Asia

    </td>

  </tr>

  <tr>

    <td>Country</td>

    <td id="Country">

        India

    </td>

  </tr>

  <tr>

    <td>CountryCode</td>

    <td id="CountryCode">

        IN

    </td>

  </tr>

  <tr>

    <td>Locality</td>

    <td id="Locality">

        Chuksan, Tsango Valley

    </td>

  </tr>

  <tr>

    <td>VerbatimLocality</td>

    <td id="VerbatimLocality">

        ; India; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; Chuksan, Tsango Valley

    </td>

  </tr>

  <tr>

    <td>ScientificName</td>

    <td id="ScientificName">

        Pica pica bottanensis

    </td>

  </tr>

  <tr>

    <td>HigherClassification</td>

    <td id="HigherClassification">

        Animalia;Chordata;Aves;Passeriformes;Corvidae;Pica

    </td>

  </tr>

  <tr>

    <td>Kingdom</td>

    <td id="Kingdom">

        Animalia

    </td>

  </tr>

  <tr>

    <td>Phylum</td>

    <td id="Phylum">

        Chordata

    </td>

  </tr>

  <tr>

    <td>Class</td>

    <td id="Class">

        Aves

    </td>

  </tr>

  <tr>

    <td>Order</td>

    <td id="Order">

        Passeriformes

    </td>

  </tr>

  <tr>

    <td>Family</td>

    <td id="Family">

        Corvidae

    </td>

  </tr>

  <tr>

    <td>Genus</td>

    <td id="Genus">

        Pica

    </td>

  </tr>

  <tr>

    <td>SpecificEpithet</td>

    <td id="SpecificEpithet">

        pica

    </td>

  </tr>

  <tr>

    <td>InfraspecificEpithet</td>

    <td id="InfraspecificEpithet">

        bottanensis

    </td>

  </tr>

  <tr>

    <td>TaxonRank</td>

    <td id="TaxonRank">

        subspecies

    </td>

  </tr>

  <tr>

    <td>NomenclaturalCode</td>

    <td id="NomenclaturalCode">

        ICZN

    </td>

  </tr>

  <tr>

    <td>UnderivedSex</td>

    <td id="UnderivedSex">

        male

    </td>

  </tr>

</tbody>

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[tucotuco]

Hi Tom,

Do you not have a note within the new comment area that says "Attach files by dragging & dropping, selecting them, or pasting from the clipboard."? The "selecting them" should be a link to a dialog box to choice files from your computer. If that option is not available to you, I would like to know.

Thanks, John

[Samizdat2003]

Hi John,

Indeed I do see that note on GitHub. However, I did not see it earlier because I replied directly to the email message I’d received. (I read the note at the bottom of the message stating “You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub, or mute the thread” and, me being me, I chose the easiest option, which was to simply hit Reply and attach the image to my new message, which apparently does not lead to the image being posted to GitHub.) Thanks for the heads-up; I’ll attach the relevant images on GitHub now.

Best, Tom

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Hi Tom,

Do you not have a note within the new comment area that says "Attach files by dragging & dropping, selecting them, or pasting from the clipboard."? The "selecting them" should be a link to a dialog box to choice files from your computer. If that option is not available to you, I would like to know.

Thanks, John

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[Samizdat2003]

Attached are images (front and back) of the original label tied to AMNH SKIN 676019,

[tucotuco]

:-)

[paintedstork]

Thanks - if the date is 26 September 1904, which looks it is, Waddell was probably on his return from Tibet after this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_expedition_to_Tibet. Hence, most likely this place is in Tibet and not Sikkim.

thanks & best rgds Praveen

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[Samizdat2003]

In addition, it appears from the specimen label that the correct spelling of the valley is "Tsangpo Valley", not Tsango as was recorded in our handwritten catalog (and hence in our database.) I'll correct the spelling in our database, and also note that this locality is likely in Tibet.

Thanks, Tom