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nschneid commented 11 years ago

consensus isi_0001.28 (snt. 27 in workset guidelines, last updated on Mon May 14, 2012) naval officials
```
(o / officer
:poss (n / navy))
```
I would've used :employed-by or :mod here, definitely not :poss.
consensus isi_0002.170 (snt. 207 in workset guidelines, last updated on Mon Mar 4, 2013) academic year 2011-2012
```
(d / date-entity :year 2011 :year2 2012
:calendar (y / year
      :poss (a / academia)))
```
Suggestion: :mod

consensus isi_0002.171 (snt. 208 in workset guidelines, last updated on Mon Mar 4, 2013) United States government fiscal year 2012

(d / date-entity :year 2012
:calendar (y / year
      :poss (f / finance)
      :mod (g / government-organization
            :ARG0-of (g2 / govern-01
                  :ARG1 (c / country :name (n / name :op1 "United" :op2 "States"))))))

Suggestion: :mod

Part/area of factory. Suggestion: :part-of

consensus nw.wsj_0003.25 (snt. 28 in workset wsj100-sent, last updated on Thu Apr 26, 2012) Areas of the factory were particularly dusty where the crocidolite was used .

(d / dusty
:domain (a / area
        :poss (f / factory)
        :location-of (u / use-01
                       :ARG1 (c / crocidolite)))
:mod (p / particular))

consensus nw.wsj_0003.27 (snt. 30 in workset wsj100-sent, last updated on Thu Aug 16, 2012) Workers described `` clouds of blue dust '' that hung over parts of the factory , even though exhaust fans ventilated the area .

(d / describe-01
:ARG0 (p / person
      :ARG0-of (w / work-01))
:ARG1 (c3 / cloud
      :consist-of (d3 / dust
            :mod (b2 / blue))
      :ARG1-of (h / hang-01
            :location (o / over
                  :op1 (p2 / part
                        :poss (f / factory)))
            :concession (v / ventilate-01
                  :ARG0 (f2 / fan
                        :mod (e / exhaust))
                  :ARG1 (a / area)))))

End of time period. Suggestion: :part-of

consensus nw.wsj_0011.5 (snt. 92 in workset wsj100-sent, last updated on Fri Jul 13, 2012) Government officials said exports at the end of the year would remain under a government target of $ 68 billion .

(s / say-01
:ARG0 (o / official
      :mod (g2 / government-organization
            :ARG0-of (g / govern-01)))
:ARG1 (r / remain-01
      :ARG1 (t / thing
            :ARG1-of (e3 / export-01)
            :time (e2 / end
                  :poss (y / year)))
      :ARG3 (u / under
            :op1 (m2 / monetary-quantity :quant 68000000000
                  :unit (d2 / dollar)
                  :ARG1-of (t2 / target-01
                        :ARG0 g2)))))

consensus wb.eng_0003.23 (snt. 23 in workset wb-eng-0003, last updated on Tue Mar 26, 2013) Before the end of the decade , we may well see the unfunded liability zoom well past the original $ 400 million it took to build the original highway .

(p / possible
:domain (s / see-01
      :ARG0 (w / we)
      :ARG1 (z / zoom-01
            :ARG1 (l / liability
                  :ARG1-of (f / fund-01 :polarity -))
            :ARG4 (p2 / past
                  :op1 (m / monetary-quantity :quant 400000000
                        :unit (d / dollar)
                        :ARG1-of (t / take-10
                              :ARG0 (b2 / build-01
                                    :ARG1 (h / highway
                                          :mod (o / original))))
                        :mod (o2 / original))
                  :mod (w2 / well)))
      :time (b / before
            :op1 (e / end
                  :poss (d2 / decade))))
:degree (w3 / well))

Highway's exits. Suggestion: :part-of

consensus wb.eng_0003.5 (snt. 5 in workset wb-eng-0003, last updated on Mon Sep 10, 2012) Already it is changing development patterns for the worse and causing localized traffic congestion around its exits .

(a / and
:op1 (c / change-01
     :ARG0 (i / it)
     :ARG1 (p / pattern
             :mod (d / develop-02))
     :ARG2 (b / bad
             :degree (m / more)))
:op2 (c2 / cause-01
     :ARG0 i
     :ARG1 (c3 / congest-01
             :ARG1 (a2 / around
                     :op1 (e / exit
                            :poss i))
             :ARG2 (t / traffic)
             :ARG1-of (l2 / localize-01)))
:time (a3 / already))

consensus wb.eng_0003.20 (snt. 20 in workset wb-eng-0003, last updated on Mon Mar 25, 2013) If Route 288 has already created a $ 13 million road - construction in just this one exist , think of the liability it has created for all of its exits !

(t / think-01 :mode imperative
:ARG0 (y / you)
:ARG1 (l / liable-41
      :ARG1-of (c / create-01
            :ARG0 r2
            :ARG3 (e / exit
                  :mod (a / all)
                  :poss r2)))
:ARG1-of (c5 / cause-01
      :ARG0 (c2 / create-01
            :ARG0 (r2 / road :name (r / name :op1 "Route" :op2 "288"))
            :ARG1 (c3 / construct-01
                  :ARG1 (r3 / road)
                  :ARG1-of (c4 / cost-01
                        :ARG2 (m / monetary-quantity :quant 13000000
                              :unit (d / dollar)))
                  :location (e2 / exit :quant 1
                        :mod (t2 / this)
                        :mod (j / just)))
            :time (a2 / already))))

Shares of stock. Suggestion: :consist-of

consensus wsj_1129.1 (snt. 26 in workset first50, last updated on Fri Apr 19, 2013) Brush Wellman Inc. said its board increased the number of shares of common stock to be purchased under a previously authorized program to 3.9 million from 2.9 million .

(s / say-01
:ARG0 (c2 / company :name (n5 / name :op1 "Brush" :op2 "Wellman" :op3 "Inc."))
:ARG1 (i / increase-01
      :ARG0 (b / board
            :poss c2)
      :ARG1 (n / number
            :quant-of (s2 / share
                  :poss (s3 / stock
                        :ARG1-of (p2 / purchase-01
                              :prep-under (p3 / program
                                    :ARG1-of (a / authorize-01
                                          :time (p4 / previous))))
                        :mod (c / common))))
      :ARG3 2900000
      :ARG4 3900000))

uhermjakob commented 11 years ago

:poss is indeed a little tricky at times. Let me share a little of the original motivation.

As the AMR help page at http://www.isi.edu/~ulf/amr/lib/popup/poss.html describes it, the role :poss ("possessed by") is a very general form of possession. Often used with possessive pronouns, as well as of and 's .

We sometimes use :poss for pertainymns as well, when they are equivalent to semantically equivalent expressions using possessives/'s/of, e.g.

naval officials = officials of the navy = the navy's officials
Russian president = president of Russia

I agree that consistency remains a bit of a challenge. For expressions of the type "at the end of the year," different annotators have been using different annotations:

end-01
:part-of
:poss

Our consensus was to use :part/:part-of only for physical parts of a physical objects. See http://www.isi.edu/~ulf/amr/lib/popup/poss.html I would also hesitate to use end-01, as I don't really see a primary ending event here, and this solution wouldn't work too well with similar expressions such as "middle of the year".

nschneid commented 11 years ago

I understand that :poss originally had a very broad scope, but since then we have created roles for expressing more semantic entity-entity relations, such as :part-of, :consist-of, and :employed-by. My suggestions above assume that :poss is most appropriate for semantic possession/ownership, and is no longer appropriate for most other uses of the 's-genitive, of-genitive, or (for that matter) noun-noun compound constructions.

naval officials = officials of the navy = the navy's officials

True, but isn't this also paraphrasable as navy officials (which would suggest :mod, if not :employed-by)?

Russian president = president of Russia

I realize that the "official role in an institution" relation is not well captured by any of the more semanticky options at our disposal, which is why we fall back to :poss. Ideally we would have a frame for president. But I wasn't proposing to change these.

Our consensus was to use :part/:part-of only for physical parts of a physical objects.

The guidelines have unit of the company with :part. I don't see a need to limit it to physical parts, though we would need a variety of examples to ensure consistency.

For expressions of the type "at the end of the year," different annotators have been using different annotations

Another possibility would be end :subevent-of year, which suggests a temporal subdivision rather than a physical one.

nschneid commented 11 years ago

I should add that the original post lists all the instances of :poss I could find in the consensus that I thought had a better alternative. So changing them should not require extensive digging for similar cases.

uhermjakob commented 11 years ago

OK, I can see that in a few cases, :poss seems a bit weird. I'm personally fine with :mod for academic/fiscal year and possibly with :part-of for area of the factory. For expressions such as mid-1950s, would middle be a :subevent-of the decade?

mgeorgescu commented 11 years ago

The suggestions for change given for the examples found in the consensus seem reasonable.

uhermjakob commented 11 years ago

OK. Consensus to change the :poss under academic year and fiscal year to :mod. Updated.

nschneid commented 10 years ago

Closing this in favor of #110.

amrisi / amr-guidelines

:poss in consensus #16