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verbalize "effort"? #45

Closed cbonial closed 11 years ago

cbonial commented 11 years ago

I believe that we would map the light verb construction "make effort" to "try," but should we map all mentions of "effort" to "try"? For example, in mentions like "as part of an effort," or "during efforts..." These mentions are often accompanied by who is making the effort and what is being tried, so the argument structure would be very useful.

"Effort" has come up quite a bit in proxy, it seems that it is generally being treated as a noun, with the thing tried marked as :purpose.

uhermjakob commented 11 years ago

I would advise against always mapping "effort" to "try" because there are contexts where "effort" refers much more to an expenditure of labor, cost, or other resources rather than an attempt. For example, "John effortlessly passed the exam." does not mean that John passed the exam without trying, but rather that it was easy for him.

The AMR Checker currently will flag "to make an effort" to be converted to "try" and in that expression it's probably often appropriate, but I have to admit that this was one of the support-verb-construction mappings I was most uneasy about.

cbonial commented 11 years ago

Okay, I'm going to change all "efforts" to "try" then. Thanks!

uhermjakob commented 11 years ago

Okay, I'm going to change all "efforts" to "try" then. Thanks!

Hi Claire, did we misunderstand each other?

cbonial commented 11 years ago

Oops, yes, I misread your comment! Do we want to map it to "try" in cases where it really means "try"? As opposed to the adverbial case that you mention?