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Simple and portable (but not inflexible) GUI library in C that uses the native GUI technologies of each platform it supports.
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Is someone updating this repo but in another github repo/profile? #547

Open terremoth opened 2 years ago

terremoth commented 2 years ago

This seems almost dead and @andlabs doesn't want patreon support (#486) or he never comes to see its repos here.

rubyFeedback commented 2 years ago

I think the bigger issue is in regards to long-term maintenance and improvements. Ideally we could find to see to distribute the work load onto several maintainers who keep the spirit of libui alive (cross-platform focus first, although I'd also love to see a SLIGHTLY less stringent reservation in regards to additional, custom modifications; for instance I'd love to use CSS at the least when using libui on linux, which should be possible via GTK + CssProvider - no idea if that is possible on windows, but it would be nice as an option).

Looking at the peak activity of libui, I think andlabs was most active from 2015 to 2017 or so. He did add more code and code changes past that point, but I think one issue is that it is a lot a one-person project, which is not ideal. Sadly there is no way for me to maintain libui as such - I simply don't know C and C++ well enough.

Perhaps there could be some additional repository aka "patches to libui" to add individual functionality, and then somehow organize these patches to make regular releases, even if andlabs does not have the time or motivation (which is also ok, by the way, I completely understand that time constraints exist, lack of motivation, funding and so forth, all ok too).

If there is indeed some github repo for additional libui patches, this would be nice to know and see. htop maintained by Hisham eventually had new maintainers after a set of patches was not added for a longer time, so perhaps this model could also work for libui. I guess it needs some initial people to drive forward though, and these need to know C or C++ fairly well I think. And probably some cross-platform way, although other users could help test things, if a call for such testing is made I am sure.

terremoth commented 2 years ago

"distribute the work load onto several maintainers"

The problem is: can be more contributors but the repo maintainer is only one. Only if what I told was done: someone forked and continues, but I think that didn't happen (at least not yet). Let's remember also, GTK is on his 4th version now.

even if andlabs does not have the time or motivation (which is also ok, by the way, I completely understand that time constraints exist, lack of motivation, funding and so forth, all ok too).

indeed, no problem at all (seriously) with someone does not caring anymore or if cannot work anymore on a project, the problem is indeed if it dies and nobody continues and github has no option in this url: https://github.com/andlabs/libui/network/members to tell if other forks are more updated... that could be a useful feature they could implement

One of my dreams is to see a working good libui working on PHP so everyone could build GUI desktop apps with it. The other projects: PHP-GTK, PHP-TK, wxPHP and PHP-QT are all dead or forgotten.

rubycoder commented 2 years ago

github has no option in this url: https://github.com/andlabs/libui/network/members to tell if other forks are more updated

I think this url: https://github.com/andlabs/libui/network shows that there are 5 (or so) other repos that have newer commits than the andlabs one

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"distribute the work load onto several maintainers"

The problem is: can be more contributors but the repo maintainer is only one. Only if what I told was done: someone forked and continues, but I think that didn't happen (at least not yet). Let's remember also, GTK is on his 4th version now.

even if andlabs does not have the time or motivation (which is also ok, by the way, I completely understand that time constraints exist, lack of motivation, funding and so forth, all ok too).

indeed, no problem at all (seriously) with someone does not caring anymore or if cannot work anymore on a project, the problem is indeed if it dies and nobody continues and github has no option in this url: https://github.com/andlabs/libui/network/members to tell if other forks are more updated... that could be a useful feature they could implement

One of my dreams is to see a working good libui working on PHP so everyone could build GUI desktop apps with it. The other projects: PHP-GTK, PHP-TK, wxPHP and PHP-QT are all dead or forgotten.

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rubycoder commented 2 years ago

Indeed, thank you! You're welcome!

Also, scrolling back in time on https://github.com/andlabs/libui/network shows a number of other repos that have commits that just happen to have been made before the last andlabs commit (1/2/2021)

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Hi there, just to clarify. Although my corporation is pretty interested in this project, and the corresponding php-ui bindings, i am just scratching on the surface at the moment. So don't expect to much right now. Furthermore i have just linux here (and my colleges too) so we don't have the resources to test for mac or windows. However, it would be really sad if this project would cease to exist.

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terremoth commented 2 years ago

@rubycoder probably are PULL REQUESTS not merged

cody271 commented 2 years ago

I propose that it is now time we try to move libui forward with a completely new fork.

Please see the new org with repo here: libui-ng/libui-ng

terremoth commented 2 years ago

I propose that it is now time we try to move libui forward with a completely new fork.

Please see the new org with repo here: libui-ng/libui-ng

So you're going to continue it?

DonMartio commented 2 years ago

May we all are.

terremoth commented 2 years ago

May we all are.

I can test things, but I am not a C/C++ programmer. I can also fund/help with a some money, if someone starts seriously work on it.

DonMartio commented 2 years ago

I have no problems with C/C++ in this matter but i have no insights in mac or windows world.

terremoth commented 2 years ago

I have no problems with C/C++ in this matter but i have no insights in mac or windows world.

That's awesome already, because if you can at least fix the Linux part, other people from other OS's will come to help, or in THE WORST SCENARIO: you will make possible making UI apps again on linux with this repo +updated!

cody271 commented 2 years ago

I propose that it is now time we try to move libui forward with a completely new fork. Please see the new org with repo here: libui-ng/libui-ng

So you're going to continue it?

As I'm the contributor to libui listed after @andlabs, the responsibility to continue appears to fall on me now yes.

terremoth commented 2 years ago

I propose that it is now time we try to move libui forward with a completely new fork. Please see the new org with repo here: libui-ng/libui-ng

So you're going to continue it?

As I'm the contributor to libui listed after @andlabs, the responsibility to continue appears to fall on me now yes.

Good. Maybe you can start fixing some issues and analyze some pull requests...

cody271 commented 2 years ago

Good. Maybe you can start fixing some issues and analyze some pull requests...

Yes please file all issues you'd like fixed now to the new repo going forward. Ideally with a reference to the old issue, if applicable. PRs welcome!

terremoth commented 2 years ago

Good. Maybe you can start fixing some issues and analyze some pull requests...

Yes please file all issues you'd like fixed now to the new repo going forward. Ideally with a reference to the old issue, if applicable. PRs welcome!

I think it is a nice start here: https://github.com/andlabs/libui/milestones @andlabs created the "Alpha 5" Milestone that he discussed many issues, so there could be a good start because there are more conversation related and reported. What do you think?

terremoth commented 2 years ago

Maybe @DonMartio can also help you there

cody271 commented 2 years ago

What do you think?

@terremoth I will be prioritizing all issues by actual present users need, so please manually reopen any issues you personally care about from that list in the new repo. Thanks.

terremoth commented 2 years ago

What do you think?

@terremoth I will be prioritizing all issues by actual present users need, so please manually reopen any issues you personally care about from that list in the new repo. Thanks.

Okay.

rubyFeedback commented 2 years ago

I think it may help if:

a) a focus on existing issues that have a patch may be prioritized

and

b) people may find libui-ng

In particular via a) that could potentially work. If anyone remembers htop, which was created by hisham. Eventually he didn't have time to continue with it, other folks provided some patch sets and the new htop originated out of these patches. And I think it may be fine to focus on the existing patches and perhaps improve a few things - people will have a look once a project can move again. I guess we may help cody271 reorganize and see which patches are available and wait to be applied. Right now libui-ng is very young - I guess tons of people don't even know it exists. I found it only accidentally myself when searching for libui-images, suddenly I found libui-ng. :)

enderger commented 2 years ago

I think it may help if:

a) a focus on existing issues that have a patch may be prioritized

and

b) people may find libui-ng

In particular via a) that could potentially work. If anyone remembers htop, which was created by hisham. Eventually he didn't have time to continue with it, other folks provided some patch sets and the new htop originated out of these patches. And I think it may be fine to focus on the existing patches and perhaps improve a few things - people will have a look once a project can move again. I guess we may help cody271 reorganize and see which patches are available and wait to be applied. Right now libui-ng is very young - I guess tons of people don't even know it exists. I found it only accidentally myself when searching for libui-images, suddenly I found libui-ng. :)

I've created an issue (#549) to hopefully aid with part b.