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andras-simonyi / citeproc-el

A CSL 1.0.2 Citation Processor for Emacs.
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Fix "{{Literal}}" authors #72

Closed rudolf-adamkovic closed 2 years ago

rudolf-adamkovic commented 2 years ago

author BibTeX field {{Indiana University}} should render as "Indiana University" and not "I. University".

Tested with Pandoc and CSL: https://github.com/citation-style-language/styles/blob/master/apa.csl

Quintus commented 2 years ago

I can second this. I have experienced it as well, though the problem proved not to be relevant for the document I was working on. I had this bibliography entry from German parliamentary process:

@legislation{bt12-4022,
author = {{Deutscher Bundestag}},
title = {Entwurf eines Zweiten Gesetzes zur Änderung des Urheberrechtsgesetzes},
number = {BT-Drs. 12/4022},
date = {1992-12-18}}

The Deutscher Bundestag is the German parliament. It should never be abbreviated, nor is Bundestag a surname; Biblatex supports this as what the OP called "literal authors" by an extra pair of braces, though I think Biblatex only supports it for backward compatibility with Bibtex. The problem did not become pressing for me, because this kind of work is cited only by the content of number in German judicial articles, so I wrote a CSL style that used bill to only print number. But I did observe that the author name is not properly parsed while I was writing that citation style.

I want to highlight that Biblatex supports an extended, pretty useful notation for names denoted in the Biblatex manual § 3.4. I have not yet used it, but I will eventually try it out.

Quintus commented 2 years ago

I want to highlight that Biblatex supports an extended, pretty useful notation for names denoted in the Biblatex manual § 3.4. I have not yet used it, but I will eventually try it out.

It's not yet supported. I opened #75 for it.

rudolf-adamkovic commented 2 years ago

Other examples from my bibliography:

author = {{The GLFW Development Team}}
author = {{Purdue University}},
author = {{Hewlett-Packard Company}}
author = {{American Psychological Association}}
author = {{Indiana University}}
...
rudolf-adamkovic commented 2 years ago

@Quintus I would prefer to have 101 BibTeX support first.

andras-simonyi commented 2 years ago

@salutis This is the next thing on my ToDo list...

rudolf-adamkovic commented 2 years ago

@andras-simonyi Thank you so much. I cannot submit a paper for the class due to this issue.

Quintus commented 2 years ago

I would prefer to have 101 BibTeX support first.

Well, and I would prefer other things being done earlier as well. The decision is up to Andras. We should be grateful to Andras that he so voluntaryly implements our requests at all -- it's really great. His incredible work already enabled me to write a scientific paper in org and I never found writing a paper such a pleasure before.

rudolf-adamkovic commented 2 years ago

@Quintus Agreed. @andras-simonyi = 💣

andras-simonyi commented 2 years ago

@Quintus and @salutis thanks for your kind words, I really appreciate them and also your efforts to try to use citeproc-el and make it better -- the issues you are raising are highly valuable for the development. Incidentally, I've just merged a PR hopefully implementing the double bracket notation for corporate names, so {{Indiana University}} et co. should now work. (Next I plan to look into the remaining name field parsing issues, #75 and #74.)

rudolf-adamkovic commented 2 years ago

Updated to 20211127.936 and the double-bracket names, such as {{Indiana University}} work perfectly. Thank you, @andras-simonyi!