felixfontein commented 2 years ago

This tracks the Community Working Group meetings for Ansible. Continues the 2020/2021 agenda in #539.

Meeting logs
Invite (import by URL): ics file
Location:
- Matrix Room: #community:ansible.com
- IRC Channel: #ansible-community

felixfontein commented 2 years ago

2022-01-05

Agenda https://github.com/ansible/community/issues/539 18:00:05)

Agenda: https://github.com/ansible/community/issues/539 / Topics: https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics

Updates

Happy New Year 2022 :)
We are excited to announce that briantist has joined the Ansible Steering Committee. Brian has been a very active community member for several years. He has contributed to the project as a developer, reviewer, collection maintainer, documentation contributor, he helped other contributors and users on IRC / Matrix and GitHub as well as the steering committee to make right decisions.
thanks to briantist, PRs in the community.docker repo now have a docs build and docs diff
We had 24 issues of The Bullhorn, the Ansible Community newsletter, last year. Subscribe via https://us19.campaign-archive.com/home/?u=56d874e027110e35dea0e03c1&id=d6635f5420

Active voting topics

https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3Aactive-vote will show all active votes
opinions wanted on semantic markup proposal - https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics/issues/53

distutils LooseVersion etc. replacement

Original PR: https://github.com/ansible-collections/community.general/pull/3936
Unintended consequences (bug report): https://github.com/ansible-collections/community.docker/issues/267
Changelog PR: https://github.com/ansible-collections/community.general/pull/3979

open floor

Logs

Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-01-05/ansible_community_meeting.2022-01-05-18.00.html Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-01-05/ansible_community_meeting.2022-01-05-18.00.txt Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-01-05/ansible_community_meeting.2022-01-05-18.00.log.html

felixfontein commented 2 years ago

2022-01-12

Agenda https://github.com/ansible/community/issues/539 18:00:09)

Agenda: https://github.com/ansible/community/issues/539 / Topics: https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics

Updates

don't forget to vote on the open votes: https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3Aactive-vote
Ansible 5.2.0 will be released sometime shortly after the meeting
deadline for Bullhorn 42 content is tomorrow, as we're testing how feasible it is to have a weekly release cadence. Please share your news with newsbot in ansible-social channel/room by 20:00 UTC on 2022-01-13!
https://github.com/ansible-community/github-docs-build contains some GHA actions and shared workflows for collection docs builds
There will be many talks about Ansible at the upcoming devconf and FOSDEM conferences, find them via https://devconfcz2022.sched.com/?searchstring=ansible and https://fosdem.org/2022/search/?q=ansible
The parameter and return value tables on docs.ansible.com's devel docs are now responsive
Please suggest possible names for the Changes Impacting Contributors repository in the topic https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics/issues/51. Deadline is Sunday, 16 Jan 2022.

How to proceed with "I'd like to contribute ansible-trace under ansible-collections" (felixfontein, 18:22:56)

https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics/issues/52

Voting result on: Repository instead of Changes impacting collection contributors & maintainers Issue (felixfontein, 18:53:12)

https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics/issues/51#issuecomment-1010982671

open floor

Logs

Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-01-12/ansible_community_meeting.2022-01-12-18.00.html Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-01-12/ansible_community_meeting.2022-01-12-18.00.txt Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-01-12/ansible_community_meeting.2022-01-12-18.00.log.html

felixfontein commented 2 years ago

2022-01-19

Agenda https://github.com/ansible/community/issues/539 18:00:14)

Agenda: https://github.com/ansible/community/issues/539 / Topics: https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics

Updates

comments welcome on how to craft good changelog fragments - https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics/issues/64#issue-1107241644

Establishing the roadmap for Ansible 6.0.0

Discussion: https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics/issues/56
PR for roadmap proposal: https://github.com/ansible/ansible/pull/76772

Vote ended: documentation should use FQCN also for ansible.builtin names (felixfontein, 18:33:50)

https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics/issues/58

Simplifying the collection inclusion process

Discussion: https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics/issues/63

open floor

We have a new vote, active until next week: https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics/issues/56

Logs

Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-01-19/ansible_community_meeting.2022-01-19-18.00.html Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-01-19/ansible_community_meeting.2022-01-19-18.00.txt Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-01-19/ansible_community_meeting.2022-01-19-18.00.log.html

felixfontein commented 2 years ago

2022-01-26

Agenda https://github.com/ansible/community/issues/539 18:00:39)

Agenda: https://github.com/ansible/community/issues/539 / Topics: https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics

Updates

In accordance with the Community decision, we have created the news-for-maintainers repository for announcements of changes impacting collection maintainers (see the examples)

What to focus on for Ansible 6?

https://github.com/ansible/ansible/pull/76772 with the Ansible 6 Roadmap has been approved

community.general and community.network: when we drop Ansible 2.9 / ansible-base 2.10 support, should we also drop support of ansible-core < 2.11.8? (felixfontein, 18:53:43)

https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics/issues/50#issuecomment-1020849145

open floor

https://pypi.org/project/ansible/ ... the source code links to ansible/ansible. That seems wrong, especially in with the "can't remove tests from collection tars" belief

Logs

Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-01-26/ansible_community_meeting.2022-01-26-18.00.html Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-01-26/ansible_community_meeting.2022-01-26-18.00.txt Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-01-26/ansible_community_meeting.2022-01-26-18.00.log.html

felixfontein commented 2 years ago

2022-02-02

Agenda https://github.com/ansible/community/issues/539 18:00:49)

Agenda: https://github.com/ansible/community/issues/539 / Topics: https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics

Updates

Ansible 5.3.0 has been released: https://groups.google.com/g/ansible-announce/c/gU0uW0CNwJM
ansible-core 2.12.2 and 2.11.8 as well as ansible-base 2.10.17 have been released: https://groups.google.com/g/ansible-announce/c/VEdKtbHRDAI
We are happy to announce a new Steering Committee member!... (full message at https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/9ee3dbae2a186f8190dc5f6b53183fc72aaee1d4)
Gwmngilfen , dmsimard and myself are speaking at FOSDEM this weekend https://fosdem.org/2022/search/?q=ansible
https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics/issues/63 on simplifying the inclusion process
if you have good changelog fragment examples, please add to a comment here and we can add to the docs - https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics/issues/64
The community approved the plan to simplify the collection inclusion process for Ansible: this means that new collections can be added in any minor release (~every three weeks), instead of having to wait for a new major release (~every six months)
https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics/issues/63

open floor

Logs

Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-02-02/ansible_community_meeting.2022-02-02-18.00.html Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-02-02/ansible_community_meeting.2022-02-02-18.00.txt Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-02-02/ansible_community_meeting.2022-02-02-18.00.log.html

felixfontein commented 2 years ago

2022-02-09

Agenda https://github.com/ansible/community/issues/539 18:00:19)

Agenda: https://github.com/ansible/community/issues/539 / Topics: https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics

Updates

added changelog examples to https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics/issues/64

Crafting better changelog fragments

Discussion: https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics/issues/64
feedback on this topic included here -https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics/issues/64#issuecomment-1034088582

open floor

We will be closing issue 546 after releasing this week's Bullhorn newsletter. Please continue to share your news items with newsbot (in #ansible-social) as most of you have been doing already. Thanks!
https://github.com/ansible/community/issues/546

Logs

Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-02-09/ansible_community_meeting.2022-02-09-18.00.html Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-02-09/ansible_community_meeting.2022-02-09-18.00.txt Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-02-09/ansible_community_meeting.2022-02-09-18.00.log.html

dmsimard commented 2 years ago

2022-02-16

Agenda https://github.com/ansible/community/issues/645

Agenda: https://github.com/ansible/community/issues/645 / Topics: https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics

Updates

There is still work to do but we are in the process of bootstrapping community maintained images for ansible-test and execution environments: https://github.com/ansible-community/images
Ansible 5.4.0 coming next week (Feb 22)

Active discussions

FEEDBACK WANTED: which directories / files / file patterns should be excluded from the Ansible installation? https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics/issues/65
How to handle moving of content from collections inside the Ansible package to collections outside the Ansible package? https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics/issues/66
FEEDBACK WANTED: Crafting better changelog fragments https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics/issues/64
Revamping the community/contributor documentation https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics/issues/60

Revamping the community/contributor documentation

Open floor

changelog guidance PR ready for review - https://github.com/ansible/ansible/pull/77040

Logs

Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-02-16/ansible_community_meeting.2022-02-16-18.00.html Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-02-16/ansible_community_meeting.2022-02-16-18.00.txt Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-02-16/ansible_community_meeting.2022-02-16-18.00.log.html

dmsimard commented 2 years ago

2022-02-23

Agenda https://github.com/ansible/community/issues/645

Agenda: https://github.com/ansible/community/issues/645 / Topics: https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics

Active community discussions

Updates

Ansible 5.4.0 has been released: https://groups.google.com/g/ansible-announce/c/razQPdsJXCs
Latest bullhorn newsletter (issue 46) https://mailchi.mp/redhat/the-bullhorn-46
Any feedback on the steering committee policy update https://github.com/ansible/community-docs/pull/49 would be much appreciated. It contains updates like quorum, a casting vote, veto, inclusion workflow changes. After polishing the PR, we'll create a corresponding community topic.

Collections included in Ansible should not use files outside of meta/, plugins/, roles/ and playbooks/ https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics/issues/70

Some good discussion (see logs)
ACTION: dmsimard to ask whether it's possible to allow "ansible-galaxy collection build" to be opt-in rather than opt-out

Open floor

Daylight savings time changes will soon be upon us once again, we should revisit or poll about what meeting time we should adopt

Logs

Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-02-23/ansible_community_meeting.2022-02-23-18.00.html Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-02-23/ansible_community_meeting.2022-02-23-18.00.txt Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-02-23/ansible_community_meeting.2022-02-23-18.00.log.html

felixfontein commented 2 years ago

2022-03-02

Agenda https://github.com/ansible/community/issues/645 18:00:44)

Agenda: https://github.com/ansible/community/issues/645 / Topics: https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics

Updates

Tadej Borovšak (tadeboro) resigned from the Steering Committee, both as a chairperson and a regular member, due to professional reasons (job change). Tadej, thanks for all you did for us, we wish you the best for your next steps in life and career!
https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics/issues/72
Active vote: inclusion of community.sap and nautobot.nautobot-ansible in Ansible: https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics/issues/74
Please look at https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics/issues/56#issuecomment-1055834177 regarding Ansible 6, including the related discussions https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics/issues/70 and https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics/issues/65
Ansible 6's first alpha is due in 6 weeks (April 12th)

Logs

Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-03-02/ansible_community_meeting.2022-03-02-18.00.html Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-03-02/ansible_community_meeting.2022-03-02-18.00.txt Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-03-02/ansible_community_meeting.2022-03-02-18.00.log.html

felixfontein commented 2 years ago

2022-03-09

Agenda https://github.com/ansible/community/issues/645 18:00:30)

Agenda: https://github.com/ansible/community/issues/645 / Topics: https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics

Updates

https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics/issues/74 To include community.sap and nautobot collections in the Ansible package
https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics/issues/71 Important updates for Ansible Community Steering Committee guidelines
https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics/issues/76 Which files to remove from the Ansible 6 installation
The next Ansible Contributor Summit will be on April 12, 2022. Check out the details in the hackmd, add your names to attendees if you plan to attend, suggest topics etc. https://hackmd.io/@ansible-community/contrib-summit-202204/
https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics/issues/77 Collections included in Ansible must not use files outside of meta/, plugins/, roles/ and playbooks/
https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics/issues/71 is a rather important vote for the steering committee btw

Research related to Steering Committee guidelines 18:16:15)

Related vote: https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics/issues/71 / related PR: https://github.com/ansible/community-docs/pull/49
Kubernetes steering committee: https://github.com/kubernetes/community/blob/master/governance.md https://github.com/kubernetes/steering
Postgres: https://postgresql.fund/blog/is-it-time-to-modernize-postgresql-core/ https://www.postgresql.org/about/policies/
Fedora: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/orgchart/
OpenJS has a sort of inter-corporate governance model: https://openjsf.org/about/governance/
some orgs like Apache are Foundations: https://apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html#structure
General "project governance overviews" include https://www.redhat.com/en/resources/guide-to-open-source-project-governance-models-overview and https://opensource.com/article/20/5/open-source-governance and interestingly https://developer.ibm.com/articles/open-governance-community/
(researched by @acozine)

open floor

Logs

Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-03-09/ansible_community_meeting.2022-03-09-18.00.html Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-03-09/ansible_community_meeting.2022-03-09-18.00.txt Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-03-09/ansible_community_meeting.2022-03-09-18.00.log.html

felixfontein commented 2 years ago

2022-03-16

Agenda https://github.com/ansible/community/issues/645 18:00:13)

Agenda: https://github.com/ansible/community/issues/645 / Topics: https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics

Updates

Ansible 5.5.0 has been released: https://groups.google.com/g/ansible-announce/c/4sbFT7aVklY
VOTE DEADLINE TODAY! https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics/issues/74 Inclusion of new collections
Vote deadline on Monday: https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics/issues/71 (Steering Committee rules)
Vote deadline in a week: https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics/issues/76 (files to remove from Ansible 6) and https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics/issues/77 (collections must not use files from non-standard locations)
Discussion on extra links format: https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics/issues/80 - open until next Monday
Discussions on removing collections from Ansible: https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics/issues/79 https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics/issues/34

Removing collections from Ansible

Discussion: https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics/issues/34 (and relatedly, https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics/issues/79)

Logs

Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-03-16/ansible_community_meeting.2022-03-16-18.00.html Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-03-16/ansible_community_meeting.2022-03-16-18.00.txt Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-03-16/ansible_community_meeting.2022-03-16-18.00.log.html

felixfontein commented 2 years ago

2022-03-23

Agenda https://github.com/ansible/community/issues/645 18:00:31)

Agenda: https://github.com/ansible/community/issues/645 / Topics: https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics

Updates

We have two votes ending today: https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics/issues/76 https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics/issues/77
The next Antsibull release will support the new collection links feature (docs/docsite/links.yml file) where collections can provide an Edit on GitHub button, provide links to communication channels, and other links

Removing packages from Ansible package, and the future of the Ansible package (felixfontein, 18:11:09)

Actions

[x] @cybette to add Antsibull collection links feature demo to Contrib summit topics

Logs

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felixfontein commented 2 years ago

2022-03-30

Agenda https://github.com/ansible/community/issues/645 18:00:12)

Agenda: https://github.com/ansible/community/issues/645 / Topics: https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics

Updates

The collection link feature is active on the devel docsite!
ansible-core created the stable-2.13 branch and bumped devel to 2.14.0.dev0
Contributor Summit is in two weeks! \o/
Community Summit infos: https://hackmd.io/@ansible-community/contrib-summit-202204

Dependency of Ansible on ansible-core

Discussion: https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics/issues/84
Old decision was made in https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2020-07-01/community_working_group_meeting.2020-07-01-18.04.html, see also https://github.com/ansible-community/antsibull/issues/94

open floor

Logs

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felixfontein commented 2 years ago

2022-04-06

Agenda https://github.com/ansible/community/issues/645 18:00:30)

Agenda: https://github.com/ansible/community/issues/645 / Topics: https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics

Updates

6 days until the Contributor Summit! \o/
There's the inclusion request for the ibm.spectrum_virtualize collection that needs the second review by a SC member https://github.com/ansible-collections/ansible-inclusion/discussions/35.
felixfontein is working on splitting up the antsibull package, see https://github.com/ansible-community/antsibull/issues/410 for details
6 days until the first Ansible 6.0.0 alpha release!
community.general 4.8.0 (April 26th) will likely be the last 4.x.0 minor release, and 5.0.0 will likely be released on May 17th to make it into Ansible 6.0.0 alpha 3

open floor

Logs

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felixfontein commented 2 years ago

2022-04-13

Agenda https://github.com/ansible/community/issues/645 18:00:06)

Agenda: https://github.com/ansible/community/issues/645 / Topics: https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics

Updates

Thanks to the great work by KeyboardInterrupt we now have awesome-ansible which has a curated list of cool Ansible projects. You may find something new. Suggestions for things to add, raise a PR!
Ansible 6.0.0a1 and ansible-core 2.13.0b1 have been released. These are the first releases that ship with wheels!
yesterday's Contributor Summit was a great success!
community member mariolenz joined the Ansible Community Engineering Steering Committee! Welcome, Mario!
if anyone else has change requests for https://github.com/ansible-collections/overview/pull/201 (Describe how collections can be removed from the Ansible package) please voice them ASAP, I'll probably start a vote on this tomorrow
AWS community meeting in #/amazon-aws, agenda: https://github.com/ansible/community/issues/654

Logs

Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-04-13/ansible_community_meeting.2022-04-13-18.00.html Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-04-13/ansible_community_meeting.2022-04-13-18.00.txt Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-04-13/ansible_community_meeting.2022-04-13-18.00.log.html

cybette commented 2 years ago

2022-04-20

Agenda https://github.com/ansible/community/issues/645

Agenda: https://github.com/ansible/community/issues/645 / Topics: https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics

Updates

https://github.com/ansible-collections/overview/pull/201

Removing collections

CLI program which prints the Ansible package's version

https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics/issues/89
https://github.com/ansible/ansible/pull/72287 was the PR in which there was an update to clarify the version being ansible-core
https://github.com/ansible/ansible-doctor
https://github.com/jctanner/ansible-tools/blob/master/scripts/ansible-install-lister ... not maintained

Open Floor

Ansible London Meetup used Jitsi-> YouTube + Matrix #europe:ansible.com ) for the first time, for yesterday's meetup. Seemed to work well
Ansible Montreal meetup tomorrow (April 21), presentations will be in French, details and sign up https://www.meetup.com/Ansible-Montreal/events/284804996/

Logs

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felixfontein commented 2 years ago

2022-04-27

Agenda https://github.com/ansible/community/issues/645 18:00:30)

Agenda: https://github.com/ansible/community/issues/645 / Topics: https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics

Updates

We are happy to announce that Alexei Znamensky russoz has recently joined the Ansible Community Steering Committee. Welcome, Alexei! Thank you for joining us and your great long-term contribution!
Ansible 5.7.0 has been released
Please don't forget to vote on https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics/issues/92 (community.kubevirt removal from Ansible 7) and https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics/issues/93 (community.kubernetes removal from Ansible 7)
Please also take a look at the following two discussions related to collection removal and Ansible package maintenance: https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics/issues/94 https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics/issues/96
Pinakes is the upstream community project for Red Hat's Automation Services Catalog product. You can join the discussion in #pinakes:ansible.im (#ansible-pinakes on Libera.chat)

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felixfontein commented 2 years ago

2022-05-04

Agenda https://github.com/ansible/community/issues/645 18:00:13)

Agenda: https://github.com/ansible/community/issues/645 / Topics: https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics

Updates

ansible 5.7.1 has been released: https://groups.google.com/g/ansible-announce/c/GmOhXTtmj_w
Feedback wanted on the What to do with a lack of collection inclusion reviews community topic. The backlog of submitted collections is growing, the number of volunteers is not:) How can we fix the situation? See the topic for details.
please take the Ansible Contributor Survey (if you haven't already). Thanks! https://www.surveymonkey.co.uk/r/TD328PF
We have some problems with collections included in Ansible, please take a look at the related discussion topics: https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics/issues/96 https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics/issues/94
https://github.com/ansible-community/antsibull/pull/419 is what I've used to run sanity tests for every included collections, it could potentially live elsewhere too but once we have something like it we can run it on a regular basis which would be a great improvement over the nothing that we have
Please comment on the proposal (rules 1-4, examples 1-2) in https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics/issues/94#issuecomment-1117688626 and the comment below it.

open floor

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felixfontein commented 2 years ago

2022-05-11

Agenda https://github.com/ansible/community/issues/645 18:00:14)

Agenda: https://github.com/ansible/community/issues/645 / Topics: https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics

Updates

A kind reminder for the Steering Committee that the ibm.spectrum_virtualize collection inclusion request is waiting for the second review (more than a month passed since the first round was done). Could anyone from the Committee please review it? Thanks.
The ansible-core 2.13 GA date has been changed from May 23th to May 16th (https://groups.google.com/g/ansible-devel/c/UlHhhRDVUzc)
The vmware.vmware_rest collection has been included in Ansible 5. Thanks everyone!

How to handle offensive terminology for new collection content (felixfontein, 18:36:27)

https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=884368
https://github.com/ansible-collections/community.general/pull/4654
https://github.com/fedora-sysv/chkconfig seem to be the sources for fedora's package that contains update-alternatives, and the alternatives.c header says "Copyright 1997-2009 Red Hat, Inc."

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felixfontein commented 2 years ago

2022-05-18

Agenda https://github.com/ansible/community/issues/645 18:00:03)

Agenda: https://github.com/ansible/community/issues/645 / Topics: https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics

Updates

ansible 6.0.0a3 (including ansible-core 2.13.0) is now available for testing: https://groups.google.com/g/ansible-announce/c/x51luOaarOk
ansible 5.8.0 has been released: https://groups.google.com/g/ansible-announce/c/pT_VuSf9uS4
community.postgresql is seeking feedback on supported PG versions: https://github.com/ansible-collections/community.postgresql/issues/276
Ansiblefest 2022 announced in Chicago, October 19th & 20th and CFP is open: https://www.ansible.com/ansiblefest
Active vote until Friday: history visibility in chat (https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics/issues/43)
Active vote until Monday: adopt process for renaming collections included in Ansible (https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics/issues/102)
Contributors Summit will be in-person & online on 18th October
ansible-test sanity (devel branch) now has a Python 3.11 import test
cisco.dnac will be included in Ansible if nobody objects; deadline for objections is May 19th (https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics/issues/101)
Hey everyone, I think I've met some of you already but I'm still pretty new so would like to give myself a brief intro. I'm going to be helping out with Ansible docs and contributing to the community. I have been working with the Infinispan community for the past 4+ years and working with them on everything from the community site to docs to the React.JS console. I'm big on the "community first" approach and am really
We're down from 59 to 51 collections with failing sanity tests as of ansible 6.0.0a3, more details in the issue: https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics/issues/96
https://www.ansible.com/ansiblefest
https://github.com/ansible/galaxy-importer/blob/master/galaxy_importer/schema.py
https://github.com/pulp/pulp_ansible/blob/main/pulp_ansible/app/serializers.py#L437 the serializer returns the whole json blob afaict, so maybe that doesn't need updating

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samccann commented 2 years ago

2022-05-25

Updates

AnsibleFest will be in Chicago, Illinois this year, on October 18-19, 2022. CFP for AnsibleFest is open: https://www.ansible.com/ansiblefest
There will be a Contributor Summit the day before AnsibleFest on October 17, 2022. More details about the event will be shared when available!
Feedback wanted on https://github.com/ansible/ansible/pull/77905. Especially from the Steering Committee as it touches the collection inclusion policy (relaxing the rules).
Unmaintained collection: google.cloud
https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics/issues/105
As the community-topics repo is noisy because of voting in the topics themselves, please help us find a solution https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics/issues/104
https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics/issues/104

Improving Community Voting

https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics/issues/104
https://github.com/ansible-collections/overview/blob/main/collection_checklist.md we have this checklist
https://github.com/ansible-collections/overview/blob/main/collection_checklist.md we have this checklist for collection inclusion review
and the details explained in the collection requirements https://github.com/ansible-collections/overview/blob/main/collection_requirements.rst
this could be an opportunity to improve your visibility and impact on Ansible by helping to vet new collections
could also create learning opportunities and experience that may lead to Steering Committee membership

Open Floor

where are we on a cli output for the ansible package version - https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics/issues/89
still need to decide about fortinet.fortios and its syntax error
https://github.com/fortinet-ansible-dev/ansible-galaxy-fortios-collection/issues/181
https://github.com/fortinet-ansible-dev/ansible-galaxy-fortios-collection/issues/180
fortios issues - https://github.com/fortinet-ansible-dev/ansible-galaxy-fortios-collection/issues/181 and https://github.com/fortinet-ansible-dev/ansible-galaxy-fortios-collection/issues/180
one item fixed but no version released yet that contains it https://github.com/fortinet-ansible-dev/ansible-galaxy-fortios-collection/pull/177

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felixfontein commented 2 years ago

2022-06-01

Agenda https://github.com/ansible/community/issues/645 18:00:10)

Agenda: https://github.com/ansible/community/issues/645 / Topics: https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics

Updates

Ansible 6.0.0b2 has been released
The vote https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics/discussions/106 on the Ansible collection inclusion process is closing in two days (2022-06-03)
AnsibleFest will be in Chicago, Illinois this year, on October 18-19, 2022. CFP is open: https://www.ansible.com/ansiblefest
There will be an Ansible Contributor Summit the day before AnsibleFest on October 17, 2022 (in person + online). More details about the event will be shared when available!
more feedback wanted for the PR that adds dependency rules (before we start voting): https://github.com/ansible-collections/overview/pull/205
https://docs.ansible.com/ansible-core/devel/dev_guide/index.html
new project board to request docs edits/PR reviews - https://github.com/orgs/ansible-community/projects/3/views/1

Open floor

we have a team of community volunteer writers willing to help out with grammar/readability etc. So far limited to Edit on Github changes. Add your PRs to that board or your easyfix issues if you want docs helps

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felixfontein commented 2 years ago

2022-06-08

Agenda https://github.com/ansible/community/issues/645 18:03:26)

Agenda: https://github.com/ansible/community/issues/645 / Topics: https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics

Updates

Ansible 6.0.0rc1 has been released. It now contains a ansible-community CLI tool which allows to print the Ansible version

Removal of google.cloud and community.google from Ansible (felixfontein, 18:20:43)

Process: https://github.com/ansible-collections/overview/blob/main/removal_from_ansible.rst#unmaintained-collections

CI requirements for release commit for collections included in Ansible (felixfontein, 18:33:45)

open floor

Actions

[ ] @acozine draft an announcement for the git repos of google.cloud and community.google and The Bullhorn

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felixfontein commented 2 years ago

2022-06-22

Agenda https://github.com/ansible/community/issues/645 18:03:03)

Agenda: https://github.com/ansible/community/issues/645 / Topics: https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics

Updates

Ansible 6.0.0 has been released!
ansible-core 2.13.1 and ansible-core 2.12.7 have been released

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felixfontein commented 2 years ago

2022-06-29

Agenda https://github.com/ansible/community/issues/645 18:00:03)

Agenda: https://github.com/ansible/community/issues/645 / Topics: https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics

Updates

Ansible 5.10.0 got released
Ansible 5 is now End of Life

Better CI for Ansible docs that are not part of ansible-core (felixfontein, 18:12:27)

https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics/issues/111
only GH-based collections actively developed on GH can use the reusable docs CI workflow.

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felixfontein commented 2 years ago

2022-07-06

Agenda https://github.com/ansible/community/issues/645 18:00:00)

Agenda: https://github.com/ansible/community/issues/645 / Topics: https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics

Updates

the Ansible 6 docs are now complete - the modules in community.network and community.general are back on the 'latest' docsite

Roadmap for Ansible 7

Proposal: https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics/issues/115#issuecomment-1164771954

open floor

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Ompragash commented 2 years ago

2022-07-13

Agenda https://github.com/ansible/community/issues/645 18:00:00)

Agenda: https://github.com/ansible/community/issues/645 / Topics: https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics

Updates

Docs WG will back out the docs override on boolean parameters that force yes/no on docs output. Related to https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics/issues/116
Community Writers are available to help with collection docs PR reviews and simple docs issues - https://github.com/orgs/ansible-community/projects/3/views/1
The Guidelines for VMware REST module development are now available in the collection documentation and can be removed from ansible. https://github.com/ansible/ansible/pull/78255
Sandra: Experimenting with redirects to force 2.3 docs traffic to /latest/ except for when the referrer is blank (aka abookmarked link) or when the referrer is docs.ansible.com (aka deliberately navigating to very old docs).
- The goal is to keep the docs available for those who really are using them, but get google to stop showing them as top search results when folks really need latest docs, not something 4+ years old.

Roadmap for Ansible 7

Proposal: https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics/issues/115#issuecomment-1164771954

open floor

Have a section in collection/overview repo that talks about Notational Conventions which refers RFC 2119 & rationale for the C99 standard as we mention a lot of MUST SHOULD

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felixfontein commented 2 years ago

2022-07-20

Agenda https://github.com/ansible/community/issues/645 18:00:16)

Agenda: https://github.com/ansible/community/issues/645 / Topics: https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics

Updates

AnsibleFest registration is open! The event will be at Sheraton Grand Chicago Riverwalk on October 18-19, 2022. Check out the details and register at https://www.ansible.com/ansiblefest
There's a new vote on adding rules on collection dependencies: https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics/discussions/119
Ansible Contributor Summit will be the day before AnsibleFest (Oct 17, 2022) at the same location. Due to the focus of the event, space is limited and you'll pre-register to be on the "invite" list (so when you register for Fest you can add on Contributor Summit as an option) https://ansiblecs202210.eventbrite.com/?aff=matrix
For those attending Contributor Summit virtually you can also register on Eventbrite and select the "Online" option
New vote on normalization of boolean values: https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics/discussions/120

open floor

After this week's Bullhorn release, we'll skip an issue of The Bullhorn next week and return in 2 weeks.
Vote on google.cloud being unmaintained and removed from Ansible 8: https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics/discussions/121

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samccann commented 2 years ago

2022-07-27

Agenda https://github.com/ansible/community/issues/645

Agenda: https://github.com/ansible/community/issues/645 / Topics: https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics

Updates

VOTE ENDS 08-03 - on adding rules on collection dependencies: https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics/discussions/119
VOTE ENDS 08-03 - removing google.cloud from Ansible 8 - https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics/discussions/121
VOTE ENDS-08-03 on normalize booleans in documentation, ansible-lint, ansible-doc, ... https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics/discussions/120
AnsibleFest registration is open! The event will be at Sheraton Grand Chicago Riverwalk on October 18-19, 2022. Check out the details and register at https://www.ansible.com/ansiblefest
Ansible Contributor Summit will be the day before AnsibleFest (Oct 17, 2022) at the same location. Due to the focus of the event, space is limited and you'll pre-register to be on the "invite" list (so when you register for Fest you can add on Contributor Summit as an option) https://ansiblecs202210.eventbrite.com/?aff=matrix
For those attending Contributor Summit virtually you can also register on Eventbrite and select the "Online" option

Ansible Roadmap and Tracking

new community topic on how to better track deliverables and ensure they are completed on time for future Ansible package releases - https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics/issues/122
we have Ansible roadmaps but they are date-focuse and do not include 'planned work' like the core roadmap has - https://docs.ansible.com/ansible/devel/roadmap/ROADMAP_2_14.html#planned-work
how can we best decide what we plan for Ansible 7, 8, etc as well as track to be sure we are on target to deliver (or update Planned work for whatever gets delayed as core does)?
https://docs.github.com/en/issues/using-labels-and-milestones-to-track-work/about-milestones
we could use github milestones https://docs.github.com/en/issues/using-labels-and-milestones-to-track-work/about-milestones

Open Floor

dependency issue with community.mongodb is fixed now - https://github.com/ansible-collections/community.mongodb/issues/482

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samccann commented 2 years ago

2022-08-03

Agenda https://github.com/ansible/community/issues/645

Agenda: https://github.com/ansible/community/issues/645 / Topics: https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics

Updates

VOTE ENDS TODAY - on adding rules on collection dependencies: https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics/discussions/119
119 - 9 votes, all in favor. 6 or 7 from steering committee
VOTE ENDS TODAY - removing google.cloud from Ansible 8 - https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics/discussions/121
https://github.com/ansible-community/ansible-build-data/issues/144 might need to be deprecated as well
VOTE ENDS-TODAY on normalize booleans in documentation, ansible-lint, ansible-doc, ... https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics/discussions/120
AnsibleFest registration is open! The event will be at Sheraton Grand Chicago Riverwalk on October 18-19, 2022. Check out the details and register at https://www.ansible.com/ansiblefest
Ansible Contributor Summit will be the day before AnsibleFest (Oct 17, 2022) at the same location. Due to the focus of the event, space is limited and you'll pre-register to be on the "invite" list (so when you register for Fest you can add on Contributor Summit as an option) https://ansiblecs202210.eventbrite.com/?aff=matrix
For those attending Contributor Summit virtually you can also register on Eventbrite and select the "Online" option
community topic on how to better track deliverables and ensure they are completed on time for future Ansible package releases - https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics/issues/122
we'll leave this one open another week in case there are more ideas out there
new community topic - Improve licensing rules for 'all other code' in the collection inclusion requirementshttps://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics/issues/123
https://github.com/ansible-collections/overview/pull/212 ...a url that works!
how do we bring back CI testing for all rst based docs? - https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics/issues/111

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felixfontein commented 2 years ago

2022-08-10

Agenda https://github.com/ansible/community/issues/645 18:00:17)

Agenda: https://github.com/ansible/community/issues/645 / Topics: https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics

Updates

there are at least 4 collections available for inclusion review, so any eyes would be much appreciated. See https://github.com/ansible-collections/ansible-inclusion/discussions/categories/second-review-needed and https://github.com/ansible-collections/ansible-inclusion/discussions/categories/new-collection-reviews and
https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics/issues/126

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felixfontein commented 2 years ago

2022-08-17

Agenda https://github.com/ansible/community/issues/645

Agenda: https://github.com/ansible/community/issues/645 / Topics: https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics

Updates

ansible-core 2.13.3 and ansible-core 2.12.8 have been released https://groups.google.com/g/ansible-devel/c/px0IRJodpKY
There's an active vote: https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics/discussions/127 - Remove servicenow.servicenow in Ansible 7
Collection inclusion review day happening Tues Aug 23, 6-10 UTC and 12-16 UTC in community WG channel.

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felixfontein commented 2 years ago

2022-08-24

Agenda https://github.com/ansible/community/issues/645 18:00:04)

Agenda: https://github.com/ansible/community/issues/645 / Topics: https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics

Updates

Ansible 6.3.0 has been released!
We want to start the unmaintained removal process for dellemc.os(10|9|6) to determine whether they are unmaintained, and if they are, remove them from Ansible in the future

Logs

Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-08-24/ansible_community_meeting.2022-08-24-18.00.html Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-08-24/ansible_community_meeting.2022-08-24-18.00.txt Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-08-24/ansible_community_meeting.2022-08-24-18.00.log.html

felixfontein commented 2 years ago

2022-08-31

Agenda https://github.com/ansible/community/issues/645 18:00:24)

Agenda: https://github.com/ansible/community/issues/645 / Topics: https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics

Updates

The next Ansible Contributor Summit will be on October 17, 2022! Check out the topics we have tentatively so far, comment on them and propose your own: https://hackmd.io/@ansible-community/cs202210-planning
The event will be hybrid, so you can join in person or online. Please register here: https://ansiblecs202210.eventbrite.com/?aff=matrix
andersson007_ is collecting questions for Legal at https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics/issues/131
https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics/issues/131
https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics/issues/126
https://github.com/ansible/proposals/issues/23

Logs

Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-08-31/ansible_community_meeting.2022-08-31-18.00.html Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-08-31/ansible_community_meeting.2022-08-31-18.00.txt Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-08-31/ansible_community_meeting.2022-08-31-18.00.log.html

cybette commented 2 years ago

2022-09-07

Agenda https://github.com/ansible/community/issues/645

Agenda: https://github.com/ansible/community/issues/645 / Topics: https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics

Updates

The preliminary agenda for Ansible Contributor Summit is here, please share your comments and feedback: https://hackmd.io/@ansible-community/cs202210-agenda
We are still looking for a couple more topics if possible, please feel free to propose it here: https://hackmd.io/@ansible-community/cs202210-planning
if you have any questions about Ansible Contributor Summit, just ping cybette or andersson007_
ACTION: andersson007 to think about Steering Committee WF update related to triage of old topics
https://badges.fedoraproject.org/badge/dancing-with-toshio

Logs

Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-09-07/ansible_community_meeting.2022-09-07-18.02.html Minutes (text): https://meetbot-raw.fedoraproject.org//ansible-community/2022-09-07/ansible_community_meeting.2022-09-07-18.02.txt Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-09-07/ansible_community_meeting.2022-09-07-18.02.log.html

felixfontein commented 2 years ago

2022-09-14

Agenda https://github.com/ansible/community/issues/645 18:01:17)

Agenda: https://github.com/ansible/community/issues/645 / Topics: https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics

Updates

ansible-core feature freeze (for 2.14) is coming Monday, September 19
one week later the first ansible-core 2.14 beta, and then the first Ansible 7 alpha, will be released

Logs

Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-09-14/ansible_community_meeting.2022-09-14-18.01.html Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-09-14/ansible_community_meeting.2022-09-14-18.01.txt Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-09-14/ansible_community_meeting.2022-09-14-18.01.log.html

Andersson007 commented 2 years ago

2022-09-21

Agenda https://github.com/ansible/community/issues/645

ansible-core stable-2.14 branch available for testing / devel updated to 2.15.0.dev0 https://github.com/ansible-collections/news-for-maintainers/issues/24

Updates

ansible-core stable-2.14 branch available for testing / devel updated to 2.15.0.dev0 https://github.com/ansible-collections/news-for-maintainers/issues/24
New releases: ansible-core 2.13.4, ansible-core 2.12.9 https://groups.google.com/g/ansible-devel/c/mBAQY9EMbos
https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics/issues/134 27 days ago

Actions

[x] @mariolenz to open vote on dellemc.* collection exclusion
[x] @Andersson007 to ask @briantist to submit a PR to clarify the statement mentioned in https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics/issues/138

Logs

Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-09-21/ansible_community_meeting.2022-09-21-18.01.html Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-09-21/ansible_community_meeting.2022-09-21-18.01.txt Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-09-21/ansible_community_meeting.2022-09-21-18.01.log.html

felixfontein commented 2 years ago

2022-09-28

Agenda https://github.com/ansible/community/issues/645 18:00:20)

Agenda: https://github.com/ansible/community/issues/645 / Topics: https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics

Updates

the agenda for Ansible Contributor Summit 2022.10 is now available! https://hackmd.io/@ansible-community/cs202210-agenda
Today Ansible 7.0.0a1 should get released
for more details about what's happening at AnsibleFest 2022 (the 2 days after Contributor Summit), check out this post: https://www.ansible.com/blog/the-automation-experience-ansiblefest-2022
We're looking for a bit of feedback on changing formatting of default / choices values / samples in the Ansible docs (use <code>): https://github.com/ansible-community/antsibull-docs/issues/38
https://github.com/GoogleCloudPlatform/magic-modules

Logs

Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-09-28/ansible_community_meeting.2022-09-28-18.00.html Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-09-28/ansible_community_meeting.2022-09-28-18.00.txt Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-09-28/ansible_community_meeting.2022-09-28-18.00.log.html

gotmax23 commented 2 years ago

2022-10-12

Info

Agenda: https://github.com/ansible/community/issues/645 / Topics: https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics
ansible-core 2.12.10, 2.13.5, and 2.14.0b3 were released this week
ansible-core 2.14.0b3 (3rd beta) has been released https://groups.google.com/g/ansible-devel/c/s2EwCSbS_hM
ansible-core 2.13.5 and ansible-core 2.12.10 have been released: https://groups.google.com/g/ansible-devel/c/k6FX5XNH9ww
the question to Legal about removing/not including stuff from collection artifacts has been sent
Ansible Contributor Summit 2022.10 HackMD - get all the info here, where/when/how to join, what sessions and tracks are available and some details about them: https://hackmd.io/@ansible-community/contrib-summit-202210
Breakout rooms info and live-stream links will be shared shortly. As long as you're in the main conference room on the day (#summit:ansible.com on Matrix, #ansible-conf on Libera Chat) you'll see the signposts for them
@Andersson007 is happy to announce that Maxwell G (aka gotmax23 on GitHub, gotmax on Matrix) has joined the Steering Committee !!!

Collections that don't tag releases - https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics/issues/148

https://github.com/ansible/zuul-config/blob/master/README.rst
We'll create a separate issue to discuss considering collections that don't fix guidelines violations unmaintained under https://github.com/ansible-collections/overview/blob/main/removal_from_ansible.rst#id26
https://github.com/ansible-collections/overview/blob/main/removal_from_ansible.rst mentions broken and unmaintained collections, but doesn't talk about collections failing requirements.
We'll create a separate issue to discuss recommending collection use Zuul for Galaxy releases (https://github.com/ansible/zuul-config/)

Open Floor

https://github.com/ansible/ansible/pull/75116

Actions

[x] @gotmax23 to submit a PR and start a vote on the proposed guidelines changing after a couple days if there's no major objections
[ ] @gotmax23 to look into automation to ensure Galaxy collection releases are tagged
[x] @Andersson007 to create an issue re. the unmaintained collection process changes -- https://github.com/ansible-collections/overview/pull/217

Logs

Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-10-12/ansible_community_meeting.2022-10-12-18.00.html Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-10-12/ansible_community_meeting.2022-10-12-18.00.txt Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-10-12/ansible_community_meeting.2022-10-12-18.00.log.html

gotmax23 commented 2 years ago

2022-10-26

Intro and Info

Agenda: https://github.com/ansible/community/issues/645 / Topics: https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics
Ansible 7.0.0a2 has been released: https://groups.google.com/g/ansible-announce/c/EI8cOKdBAxQ
https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics/issues/155
Thanks to everyone for participating in Ansible Contributor Summit (both virtually and in-person)! We will share links and more details about the event in the next Bullhorn issue.
the galaxy_ng beta is live and docs can currently be found at https://deploy-preview-1501--galaxyng.netlify.app/community/overview/ we welcome any and all feedback

Collections that don't tag releases

https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics/issues/148

[WIP] removal_from_ansible.rst: add paragraph about removal

https://github.com/ansible-collections/overview/pull/217

Logs

Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-10-26/ansible_community_meeting.2022-10-26-18.00.html Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-10-26/ansible_community_meeting.2022-10-26-18.00.txt Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-10-26/ansible_community_meeting.2022-10-26-18.00.log.html

gotmax23 commented 2 years ago

2022-11-02

Intros and Info

Agenda: https://github.com/ansible/community/issues/645 / Topics: https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics
ansible-core 2.14.0rc2 was released earlier this week: https://groups.google.com/g/ansible-devel/c/dZWVmORHkxo
[Vote ends on 2022-11-08] Collection Removal Policy: add a paragraph about Collection Requirements violations
https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics/discussions/158
[Vote ends on 2022-11-04] Change release cadence and schedule of Ansible from 7.0.0 on to couple more tightly to ansible-core
https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics/discussions/157
Ansible 7 feature freeze is coming up next week: 2022-11-07 is the last day collections can make backwards-incompatible changes and still be included in Ansible 7!
The discussion on un-flat-mapping community.general and community.network (https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics/issues/147) needs more attention!

Proposal: Remove flat-mapping from community.general and community.network

https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics/issues/147
https://github.com/ansible/vscode-ansible/issues/573
:+1: Informally agreed (+5,0,0) to remove flatmapping from community.general before the 2022-11-07 Ansible 7 freeze

Open Floor

:+1: Informally agreed (+4,0,0) to move the community meeting to 19:00 UTC so it stays at 2:00 p.m. EST / 8:00 p.m. CET

Actions

[x] @cybette to update remindbot to start meetings at 19:00 UTC from next week (Nov 9) onwards

Logs

Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-11-02/ansible_community_meeting.2022-11-02-18.02.html Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-11-02/ansible_community_meeting.2022-11-02-18.02.txt Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-11-02/ansible_community_meeting.2022-11-02-18.02.log.html

gotmax23 commented 2 years ago

2022-11-09

Intro and Info

The weekly community meeting has moved from Wednesdays at 18:00 UTC to Wednesdays at 19:00 UTC so it stays at 2:00 p.m. EST / 8:00 p.m. CET now that DST / summer time is ending. The meeting location – #ansible-community on IRC and #community:ansible.com on Matrix – remains the same. As always, all interested community members are welcome!
Ansible 7.0.0b1 was released this week: https://groups.google.com/g/ansible-devel/c/vmnxxW7gCco
Ansible 6.6.0 was released this week: https://groups.google.com/g/ansible-devel/c/Kr7YjUN33pM
ansible-core 2.14.0 was released this week: https://groups.google.com/g/ansible-devel/c/G5TB9zNKNDk
ansible-core 2.13.6 was relased this week: https://groups.google.com/g/ansible-devel/c/uDceTGqyXeE
Ansible 7.0.0rc1 will happen next week, and depending on the feedback Ansible 7.0.0 will either be released one or two week afterwards, with a potential rc2 inbetween
We've merged the removal_from_ansible policy change. Collections with unresolved Collection Requirements violations are now subject to removal from the Ansible package.

How to mark private plugins in a collection #154

https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics/issues/154
https://github.com/ansible/ansible/pull/79218
https://github.com/ansible-community/antsibull-docs/pull/56
https://github.com/ansible-collections/community.sops/pull/98
There's some agreement that there should be a standardized way to mark content in a collection as private. If we proceed, the next steps are to decide whether to use the _ prefix approach or a metadata based approach, discuss this with core, and get the changes into ansible-core and antsibull-docs to hide private plugins from ansible-doc -l and the docsite.

Open Floor

https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics/issues/150#issuecomment-1307843899

Actions

[ ] @gotmax23 to submit an ansible-build-data PR add each collection's repository URL to collection-meta.yaml

Logs

Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-11-09/ansible_community_meeting.2022-11-09-19.00.html Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-11-09/ansible_community_meeting.2022-11-09-19.00.txt Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-11-09/ansible_community_meeting.2022-11-09-19.00.log.html

gotmax23 commented 1 year ago

2022-11-16

Intros and Info

Agenda: https://github.com/ansible/community/issues/645 / Topics: https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics
Ansible 7.0.0rc1 was released this week: https://groups.google.com/g/ansible-devel/c/6qXQBecm2ag
Ansible 7.0.0rc1 has been released! If there are no huge blunders reported until Friday, 7.0.0 will be released next week.

Follow Up

Update on private plugins in collections: core prefers metadata instead of filename semantics, @felixfontein created a new PR for that (ref: https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics/issues/154, https://github.com/ansible/ansible/pull/79370)

Future of c.g and c.n and Process for orphaning/deprecating modules in community.general and community.network

https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics/issues/20
There is some agreement about identifying and removing dead/unmaintained/unsed plugins in community.general and community.network.
Ideas include: adding metadata about the maintenance state of plugins, announcing orphaned plugins in the changelog/bullhorn, maybe some sort of optional survey/script/callback plugin to collect data, warnings after time has passed, engaging the devtools team about data from ansible-lint or the vscode plugin

Logs

Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-11-16/ansible_community_meeting.2022-11-16-19.00.html Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-11-16/ansible_community_meeting.2022-11-16-19.00.txt Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-11-16/ansible_community_meeting.2022-11-16-19.00.log.html

felixfontein commented 1 year ago

2022-11-23

Agenda https://github.com/ansible/community/issues/645 19:00:02)

Agenda: https://github.com/ansible/community/issues/645 / Topics: https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics

Updates

Ansible 7.0.0 has been released! https://groups.google.com/g/ansible-project/c/_in8jqIr7BE/m/m485FzmLAQAJ
we finally got a response from RH legal on our questions on excluding files; a preliminary summary can be found here: https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics/issues/131#issuecomment-1325267227

Questions to legal and unnecessary files

https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics/issues/131

open floor

We love and appreciate your feedback! Please take the Contributor Survey and help us improve the Ansible Community - https://www.surveymonkey.co.uk/r/7PVX5S2

Actions

[ ] @gotmax and felixfontein to look into adding support to antsibull for creating an ansible source distribution

Logs

Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-11-23/ansible_community_meeting.2022-11-23-19.00.html Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-11-23/ansible_community_meeting.2022-11-23-19.00.txt Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-11-23/ansible_community_meeting.2022-11-23-19.00.log.html

felixfontein commented 1 year ago

2022-11-30

Agenda https://github.com/ansible/community/issues/645 19:00:06)

Agenda: https://github.com/ansible/community/issues/645 / Topics: https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics

Updates

Ansible Core Holiday Release Schedule Update https://groups.google.com/g/ansible-devel/c/IQ7VPnw9yS8
grafana.grafana and dellemc.unity will be included in Ansible assuming nobody objects (https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics/issues/164, https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics/issues/163)
There is a vote on removing cisco.nso from Ansible 8 since it appears to be unmaintained (https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics/discussions/165)
https://github.com/ansible-collections/overview/blob/main/removal_from_ansible.rst
https://github.com/ansible-collections/overview/blob/main/removal_from_ansible.rst#process-5
https://github.com/orgs/ansible-collections/projects/2 keeps track of all disabled tests
https://github.com/vmware/govmomi/tree/master/vcsim ... we got away with smoke testing vmware with that for a long time

Logs

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felixfontein commented 1 year ago

2022-12-07

Agenda https://github.com/ansible/community/issues/645 19:01:12)

Agenda: https://github.com/ansible/community/issues/645 / Topics: https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics

Updates

Ansible 6.7.0 has been Released! https://groups.google.com/g/ansible-devel/c/3SAbTPNFBM4
New release: ansible-core 2.14.1 https://groups.google.com/g/ansible-devel/c/AGqD9SR1D5I
Ansible 7.1.0 has been released! https://groups.google.com/g/ansible-devel/c/5yzi2ye9cPM
Cfgmgmtcamp registration is open! https://registration.cfgmgmtcamp.org/ghent/2023/ If you're planning to attend Ansible Contributor Summit, please also select Workshop/Fringe day!
New release: ansible-core 2.13.7 https://groups.google.com/g/ansible-devel/c/hGR4LnAkeCw
The Ansible docsite repo is now public. This repo contains the static HTML and assets for the layout and navigation on docs.ansible.com so the community can now fork it and make changes. You can find it at: https://github.com/ansible/docsite
Steering Committee members, please look at the vote https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics/discussions/169 on the release schedule of Ansible around the winter holidays
We're planning a Proof of Concept for the Ansible docsite. details in https://hackmd.io/MguEzoFwT2GAg6IJ7J6xKw

POC for a new Ansible docsite

https://hackmd.io/MguEzoFwT2GAg6IJ7J6xKw

open floor

https://github.com/ansible-community/ansible-build-data/issues?q=is%3Aissue. Most of it is just administrative stuff
https://github.com/ansible-community/ansible-build-data/issues/114 was a proper report
https://github.com/ansible-community/ansible-build-data/issues/28 maybe as well, but all others were more administrative

Logs

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felixfontein commented 1 year ago

2022-12-14

Agenda https://github.com/ansible/community/issues/645 19:00:21)

Agenda: https://github.com/ansible/community/issues/645 / Topics: https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics

Updates

Please vote on "[Vote ends on 2022-12-16] Removal from Ansible 9: cyberark.pas": https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics/discussions/172
ansible-core 2.15.0 Schedule Change https://groups.google.com/g/ansible-devel/c/KtGFm6fCB7U
Ansible community package holiday release schedule https://groups.google.com/g/ansible-devel/c/htFjU7jZVYA

Ansible 8 Release Schedule

ansible-core 2.15's release schedule is at https://github.com/ansible/ansible/blob/devel/docs/docsite/rst/roadmap/ROADMAP_2_15.rst
https://github.com/ansible/ansible/blob/devel/docs/docsite/rst/roadmap/ROADMAP_2_15.rst
https://github.com/ansible/ansible/blob/devel/docs/docsite/rst/roadmap/ROADMAP_2_15.rst are the latest core dates

Ansible PYPi description

https://github.com/ansible/ansible-hub-ui/pull/3020 19:53:11)

the question here is whether we should refer to roles as standalone roles, legacy roles, or something else in the Galaxy NG UI.

Actions

[ ] @gotmax23 to create a community-topics ticket about whether Galaxy NG should use the term Standalone Roles or Legacy Roles

Logs

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felixfontein commented 1 year ago

2023 continues in #679 :)

ansible / community

Community Working Group Meeting Agenda 2022 #645

2022-01-05

Agenda https://github.com/ansible/community/issues/539 18:00:05)

Updates

Active voting topics

distutils LooseVersion etc. replacement

open floor

Logs

2022-01-12

Agenda https://github.com/ansible/community/issues/539 18:00:09)

Updates

How to proceed with "I'd like to contribute ansible-trace under ansible-collections" (felixfontein, 18:22:56)

Voting result on: Repository instead of Changes impacting collection contributors & maintainers Issue (felixfontein, 18:53:12)

open floor

Logs

2022-01-19

Agenda https://github.com/ansible/community/issues/539 18:00:14)

Updates

Establishing the roadmap for Ansible 6.0.0

Vote ended: documentation should use FQCN also for ansible.builtin names (felixfontein, 18:33:50)

Simplifying the collection inclusion process

open floor

Logs

2022-01-26

Agenda https://github.com/ansible/community/issues/539 18:00:39)

Updates

What to focus on for Ansible 6?

community.general and community.network: when we drop Ansible 2.9 / ansible-base 2.10 support, should we also drop support of ansible-core < 2.11.8? (felixfontein, 18:53:43)

open floor

Logs

2022-02-02

Agenda https://github.com/ansible/community/issues/539 18:00:49)

Updates

open floor

Logs

2022-02-09

Agenda https://github.com/ansible/community/issues/539 18:00:19)

Updates

Crafting better changelog fragments

open floor

Logs

2022-02-16

Agenda https://github.com/ansible/community/issues/645

Updates

Active discussions

Revamping the community/contributor documentation

Open floor

Logs

2022-02-23

Agenda https://github.com/ansible/community/issues/645

Active community discussions

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Collections included in Ansible should not use files outside of meta/, plugins/, roles/ and playbooks/ https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics/issues/70

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2022-03-02

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Research related to Steering Committee guidelines 18:16:15)

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2022-03-16

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Removing collections from Ansible

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Removing packages from Ansible package, and the future of the Ansible package (felixfontein, 18:11:09)

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