Open comphead opened 8 months ago
@alamb @ozankabak @viirya @mustafasrepo @berkaysynnada @metesynnada appreciate your inputs.
From my experience, I have never seen SortMergeJoin used in any plan I looked at in DataFusion, so therefore I think it is still "experimental" or at least "not used by datafusion by default" (which maybe is the same thing)
It looks like there was some past interest in SortMergeJoin -- https://github.com/apache/arrow-datafusion/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+sortmergejoin
Also the people interested in that operator seem to be the people focused on Spark
it is used if next conditions met https://github.com/apache/arrow-datafusion/blob/81c96fc3db0ea35638278f32df066be63b745a51/datafusion/core/src/physical_planner.rs#L1136
There is also a small set of tests introduced in sort_merge_join.slt
. And the plans there shows SMJ
To enforce SMJ its needed to set
set datafusion.optimizer.prefer_hash_join = false;
Probably we can revisit tests and run some benchmarks with SMJ enforced to make a decision?
I believe we can add fuzz tests for SMJ to ensure it is robust.
I'm thinking if its enough to add fuzz tests, prob we also need to run benchmarks on top of SMJ? Afaik now benchmarks are on top of the HJ?
Is there a rule of thumb for choosing SMJ over HJ?
Is there a rule of thumb for choosing SMJ over HJ?
I wonder how SMJ in DataFusion compares against HJ at the moment.
Some ideas for when SMJ could be chosen over HJ:
Is there a rule of thumb for choosing SMJ over HJ?
I believe current state of the art in query processing is
The only benefit SMJ has over HJ at the moment in Datafusion is that we could plausibly join relations that are larger than memory using SMJ (using the fact that we can spill the inputs) -- this may be what @Dandandan is saying in https://github.com/apache/arrow-datafusion/issues/9846#issuecomment-2034369728
I think it is close to impossible to make SMJ beat HJ for raw performance when the relations fit in memory
we shouldn't be comparing HJ vs SMJ 1:1, but the performance has to be quite close? What I'm trying to solve is to find a strategy to remove the experimental flag from SMJ and prove it is stable.
btw I found the fuzz tests are in place https://github.com/apache/arrow-datafusion/blob/daf182dc789230dbd9cf21ca2e975789213a5365/datafusion/core/tests/fuzz_cases/join_fuzz.rs#L128
I ran TPCH benchmarks for SMJ and got
thread 'tokio-runtime-worker' panicked at datafusion/physical-plan/src/joins/sort_merge_join.rs:1357:22:
index out of bounds: the len is 0 but the index is 1
note: run with `RUST_BACKTRACE=1` environment variable to display a backtrace
thread 'tokio-runtime-worker' panicked at datafusion/physical-plan/src/joins/sort_merge_join.rs:1357:22:
index out of bounds: the len is 0 but the index is 1
thread 'tokio-runtime-worker' panicked at datafusion/physical-plan/src/joins/sort_merge_join.rs:1357:22:
index out of bounds: the len is 0 but the index is 1
thread 'tokio-runtime-worker' panicked at datafusion/physical-plan/src/joins/sort_merge_join.rs:1357:22:
index out of bounds: the len is 0 but the index is 1
Error: Context("Join Error", External(JoinError::Panic(Id(88693), ...)))
Seems like a good reason to keep it marked as experimental
Seems like a good reason to keep it marked as experimental
I'll create a separate issue on it. Once TPCH passed we can get back on SMJ status
Is your feature request related to a problem or challenge?
Hi all
I was going through SMJ implementation and suddenly stepped on the comments
https://github.com/apache/arrow-datafusion/blob/81c96fc3db0ea35638278f32df066be63b745a51/datafusion/core/src/physical_planner.rs#L1141
I think it would be nice to revisit it and understand if Sort Merge Join Exec is still experimental. And if so is there any strategies to make it stable, or to run benchmarks to prove the join is stable?
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