Media upload and distribution

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago

What steps will reproduce the problem?
That process was annoying. The upload media link took me to that image
archive which would be fine except that they wanted me to log in. I hate
that bc I feel hustled into signing up at all these sites. It should
instead just give you a browse option not immediately direct you to that site.

What is the expected output? What do you see instead?
It should instead just give you a browse option not immediately direct you
to that site.

What version of the product are you using? On what operating system?
Version beta - OS and browser unknown

email9 103008KN KNYHAN
http://code.google.com/p/ourmedia3/wiki/email9

Please provide any additional information below.

Original issue reported on code.google.com by aliciaco...@gmail.com on 1 Nov 2008 at 5:51

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago

wiki email5 102208AD ADUFFY
http://code.google.com/p/ourmedia3/wiki/email5

I tried to upload a picture, but all my picture files were too big to upload, 
and I
wasn't smart enough to figure out how to make them smaller. Again, I didn't get 
any
pictures posted.

Original comment by aliciaco...@gmail.com on 3 Nov 2008 at 1:36

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago

wiki email4 102208CP CPATACSIL
http://code.google.com/p/ourmedia3/wiki/email4

This is another issue similar to 3 and 4 (comment on video, create channel)

Original comment by aliciaco...@gmail.com on 3 Nov 2008 at 1:47

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago

wiki email4 102208CP CPATACSIL
http://code.google.com/p/ourmedia3/wiki/email4

Besides that, a majority of the videos played. I noticed that some of the 
quicktime
videos didn't fully load.

Original comment by aliciaco...@gmail.com on 3 Nov 2008 at 1:50

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago

This seems a bit bizarre to have to goto another site (and create an account) to
upload media - no way to distribute directly from within ourmedia?

Original comment by gus...@gmail.com on 11 Nov 2008 at 11:38

Changed state: Accepted

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago

Original comment by gus...@gmail.com on 2 Dec 2008 at 10:11

Added labels: createcontent

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago

There is now a landing page for uploading media - 
http://beta.ourmedia.org/upload.
Options listed include 1) download and use the SpinXpress;2)upload media 
directly to
the Internet Archive; 3) upload media to blip.tv and check the box to 
cross-upload
your work to the Internet Archive. Does this mean that for the time being there 
will
be no web based solution for uploading and distributing media? If this is the 
case we
can mark this as fixed and create a new 'enhancement' issue for a web based 
solution.

Original comment by gus...@gmail.com on 3 Dec 2008 at 1:21

Changed title: Upload media doesn't work
Changed state: Started
Added labels: upload

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago

Eric is working on an uploader embed or widget. Does this integrate somehow w/
SpinXpress? If so, will this be a solution to upload and distribute to multiple 
sites
and services? 

There also is an effort forming to create a unified solution in the Drupal 
community.
As there's already interest Ourmedia/Internet archive integration, I suggest we 
see
if we can collaborate.
http://groups.drupal.org/node/16846

Original comment by gus...@gmail.com on 17 Dec 2008 at 7:18

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago

Ok...I am on this and have a working prototype that is standalone.  It needs to 
be
integrated into the ourmedia framework to leverage the archive.org credentials 
that
are currently stored there.

The uploader is a web based service that can embed on any web page.  It 
provides the
basic fields for uploading and currently offers single file publishing with 
progress
to archive.org, with redirect to the newly created ourmedia node.  It's totally 
a
work in progress and could be up or down at any moment, but you can check it out
here: http://upload.ourmedia.org/

Eric

Original comment by eric.out...@gmail.com on 18 Dec 2008 at 5:08

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago

Great to see! An embeddable uploader will be a great feature. Is the current 
plan to
have the uploads go to archive only? Also wondering if this will be a Drupal 
module.
Reason being, is that would enable this feature to be on countless other sites. 
Also
will provide an opportunity to get an assist from several other developers 
working on
a similar solution. 
http://groups.drupal.org/node/16846

I think an 'Ourmedia/Outhink' branded embeddable uploader that could distribute
multiple formats (audio/video/photos) to multiple services would be the killer 
app!

Original comment by gus...@gmail.com on 18 Dec 2008 at 9:32

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago

Yes...adding multiple destinations and possibly adding in your own hosting site
(Enter your ftp username/password) would be a goal.

Right now I just want to test through with archive.org, see what problems arise 
and
then extend in the future.

Ourmedia has some historical ties with archive.org that make doing this pairing
initially attractive.

I am also not sure how excited archive.org is with having an upload widget to 
their
repository on every site.  That still needs to be examined.

Original comment by eric.out...@gmail.com on 18 Dec 2008 at 9:42

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago

Sounds like there could be variations depending on the use case. Not sure 
if/how/when
Drupal might come into play, but this again should be a great point of entry -
http://groups.drupal.org/node/16846#comment-57831

It looks like a collaborative effort between some of the top developers in the 
media
space is coming together and there are already people excited to help with
integration. Good stuff all around!

Original comment by gus...@gmail.com on 18 Dec 2008 at 11:00

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago

Just wanted to tie in this related issue regarding the costs/benefits of using
Kaltura module and service - 
http://code.google.com/p/ourmedia3/issues/detail?id=73

As noted, they already provide some nice features for uploading and integrating 
media
(including archive.org). Unclear if/how they provide a way to 'push' media out 
to
other video, audio, and photo sharing sites.

Very curious to get Eric's take on this.

Original comment by gus...@gmail.com on 22 Dec 2008 at 11:21

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago

I've tested the uploader a few times (audio, video, photo) and it seems to 
work. 
Couple questions/comments so far...

1) will you be required to enter your archive login/password every time you 
upload
media (even if you're signed in to ourmedia)?
2) the creative commons options in the license field seem confusing without any
additional information about each type of license
3) will there be a way to upload multiple files at a time?
4) will the detail pages for each media type be consistent with what's on the 
current
site?

Original comment by gus...@gmail.com on 2 Jan 2009 at 8:59

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago

this is a work in progress, so does not make much sense to be testing it yet.

1) yes.  we do not want to store passwords.  "just say no" until the world has 
something like openid really 
working.
2) agreed.  this is straight from their site.  we will replace with more 
friendly wording.
3) no, but there should be.  This requires a lot of changes to support, but 
would be valuable to many people.
4) consistent in what way?  the media pages in the new theme have less 
information that the production site. 
most of the other theme changes to media pages are just cosmetic.

Original comment by markus.sandy on 2 Jan 2009 at 10:09

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago

Just a real quick test to see if the basic functionality worked. Have we 
established
the features that would make this good to go (at least for the relaunch)? In 
terms of
detail on the media pages, I was referring to the many fields (details, advanced
details) specific to each media type.

Also curious to hear if anyone else has any thoughts on if/how we might be able 
to
leverage the Kaltura module and network. Most of the desired features for the
Ourmedia uploader (Upload media in any format, record from webcam, multiple file
upload/import, bulk-upload via FTP) have already been developed, it may be 
worthwhile
to see if we could utilize.

Original comment by gus...@gmail.com on 5 Jan 2009 at 9:29

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago

Thanks for clarification Gus.  Yes, we need more media fields, mainly tags.  I 
have written up some rough notes 
on features that I will post to wiki and we can all discuss.

Someone needs to evaluate the Kaltura offering to see how it might fit with 
Ourmedia. 

We also need to evaluate costs of using Kaltura, particularly with respect to 
spam.

Original comment by markus.sandy on 5 Jan 2009 at 4:54

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago

wiki page is here: http://code.google.com/p/ourmedia3/wiki/UploaderNotes

Original comment by markus.sandy on 5 Jan 2009 at 5:46

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago

I've been doing some further evaluation of Kaltura and will post in the related
thread shortly. These links provide a good overview of how their 
uploader/content
ingestion works - 
http://corp.kaltura.com/technology/content_ingestion
http://corp.kaltura.com/wiki/index.php/Contributor_Wizard

Original comment by gus...@gmail.com on 5 Jan 2009 at 6:08

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago

The problem with the Kultura solution is ourmedia does NOT want to be in the 
business
of hosting media directly.

We don't really want to "ingest" media, we want to distribute it to the "best"
location and then help the user provide context around that media.

The uploader I built specifically bundles up user data in an archive.org 
specified
format and distributes delivers the file to them via a robust retry mechanism 
to deal
with their common server failures/timeouts.

We have the expertise in the stuff that is already built, bringing in a third 
party
solution that has a lot of bells and whistles can many times cause extra 
distraction
from accomplishing the goals.  Which I believe is restore archive.org/ourmedia 
upload
capabilities via a web interface.

Eric

Original comment by eric.out...@gmail.com on 5 Jan 2009 at 6:19

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago

Kultura in this context would be as a way to upload to Archive (not Ourmedia).
Reference to ingestion was to Kaltura's hosting/CDN and mainly for comparison. 
Even
if we don't use Kaltura for uploading, there may be some value in the
distribution/syndication/recommendation/remix standpoint. More soon...

Original comment by gus...@gmail.com on 5 Jan 2009 at 7:03

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago

There's quite a bit of interest here for a Drupal based solution
http://groups.drupal.org/node/16846 and think there's a good opportunity to get 
any
support we need. I'll be happy to facilitate in any way.

Original comment by gus...@gmail.com on 8 Jan 2009 at 9:15

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago

Boris pointed out yet another Drupal solution for upload to multiple sites -
http://drupal.org/node/353669 - as they've discontinued that feature (and I'm 
not
sure if it's a focus of Kultura), there's a big opportunity. 

Relatedly, it turns out the media sprint Arthur was mentioning in this thread is
happening right now - http://groups.drupal.org/node/16846. I've been chatting 
with
all the folks involved in the sprint and they all agree that a regular Dojo 
session
on media is appropriate. This is something that I'll coordinate.

I'd say this a pretty good time to bring what y'all have been working on to the 
table.

Original comment by gus...@gmail.com on 8 Jan 2009 at 11:32

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago

AND it seems that Aaron Winborn, et. al. are working on a Drupal solution -
http://aaronwinborn.com/blogs/aaron/media-code-sprint-january-2008

Original comment by gus...@gmail.com on 9 Jan 2009 at 1:21

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago

Ok - it seems like all the features/functionality for our uploader are top 
priorities
(including uploading to multiple sites) for Aaron, Arthur, and others involved 
in the
current media sprint - this is officially a Drupal dojo workshop and somebody 
already
volunteered to mock up the UI - http://groups.drupal.org/node/18085

Original comment by gus...@gmail.com on 9 Jan 2009 at 7:35

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago

There is now even a project - http://drupal.org/project/media. Nothing really 
there,
but I'd expect that to change over the weekend.

Original comment by gus...@gmail.com on 9 Jan 2009 at 11:27

Changed title: Media upload and distribution
Added labels: Type-Enhancement
Removed labels: Type-Defect

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago

This is the first of a weekly series on Drupal media - there should be many
collaboration and partnership opportunities- http://groups.drupal.org/node/18159

Original comment by gus...@gmail.com on 14 Jan 2009 at 12:23

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago

Marked as wontfix until we have a chance to review them, so that new issues
are shown clearly.

Original comment by michelst...@gmail.com on 28 Jul 2009 at 10:11

Changed state: WontFix

apperceptions / ourmedia3

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