hub: dock creation with weird characters in name

[luizaogs]

This happened this weekend too and I thought it was a fluke but it’s now happened again so I tell you. In creating a new dock with ID logsipad and name Luiza’s iPad I get the following automatically, with weird characters. If I go in and edit the name back to Luiza’s iPad I am able to save it as such, but it presumably shouldn’t add all of that weird stuff in the first place.

[luizaogs]

This was on my iPad.

[urapadmin]

that's so weird. So if you go in and save it again it saves it correctly?

[luizaogs]

yes sir

[urapadmin]

you sure?

[luizaogs]

That it saves correctly after I edit it? I mean, I’m using Luiza’s iPad in PACHA now :) Or at least I was yesterday.

[urapadmin]

I just thought I'd play the sure? yes? really? of course? game with you. Because what else can I do without a clue?

[luizaogs]

Watch this be another weird Luiza bug that no one else can reproduce. I have a talent, what can I say?

[urapadmin]

some Silicon Valley companies pay a lot of money for that talent. Good you have other talents, too :o)

[urapadmin]

I take it your iPad is not set to Portuguese (is that the right spelling for the language? Or is it only for people?), right?

[luizaogs]

Nope, to English.

(that is the right spelling for the language!)

[urapadmin]

and you did use the one not french thingy, the single quotation mark, right? (Now I am playing the asking silly questions game. Next I will ask you if the power plug is in)

[luizaogs]

You might have to get a technician to come check that one out, I’m not sure

[luizaogs]

(yes, the single quotation mark :))

[urapadmin]

funny, just occurred to my Riesling-infused brain for the first time that there might be a difference between what the language is called and what the people are called. Apart from the fact, of course, that some cultures use some other language. Now my brain tries to find an example where that differs. (English and the Brits does not count)

[urapadmin]

Browser?

[luizaogs]

You mean like Brazilian and Portuguese? I do get often asked if I speak Brazilian. Always fun.

[luizaogs]

Safari, which is probably an answer you will both expect and dislike

[urapadmin]

no, that is like Canadians and French or Canadians and English. There is no Canadian as a language. Debatable with the Australians, but that's a different story. I guess India is an example. There is no Indian. But there are Indians.

[urapadmin]

can you please try that with Chrome. Just for fun.

[urapadmin]

ja. Riesling-no-brainer. There are Egyptians but there is no Egyptian. Anymore.

[luizaogs]

Ha ha ha I was about to mention the Egyptian case (though many Egyptians would argue that their Arabic is indeed Egyptian, I think). And yes, was already grabbing my iPad…

[luizaogs]

Alas

[urapadmin]

that does not look right

[urapadmin]

what do I do if I can't blame it on Safari?

[urapadmin]

my last line of defense

[luizaogs]

…blame it on Apple. That one seems to always work.

[urapadmin]

I have to solve it, notwithstanding (a rather German English word). Just don't go work for Silicon Valley.

[luizaogs]

But that means that I have to finish my dissertation…

[urapadmin]

The world is waiting for it!

[urapadmin]

(no pressure, here)

[luizaogs]

👀

[urapadmin]

I also see all these other ... erm ... students get PhDs, so I am afraid, I am really relying on you. Somebody has to earn it.

[lbestock]

Well now I know what I will do with my evening. Having read much unsatisfying scholarship today I will read Chapter 2 while I cook dinner.

[urapadmin]

still, no pressure ...

[luizaogs]

Oh dear god. Well some more unsatisfying scholarship coming your way. The almost finished Chapter 5 is better, I promise.

[urapadmin]

I like it when we get off topic on a bug I am clueless about :o)

[lbestock]

Yeah, well, Luiza last time I checked you were actually aware of the difference between observations and interpretations. And also, as to language names and what not, I read the most egregious pots are people I have encountered in years today. Egyptian pottery to Egyptians in lightspeed, Sheikh Mufta ceramic complex to Sheikh Muftians faster than you can blink.

[luizaogs]

Always my tickets. Woops. Another talent of mine…

[luizaogs]

Well yes if your bar is that low then I’ll be able to swing a bit above it!

[urapadmin]

I leave this trail. The most egregious pots are people?

[luizaogs]

Archaeology speak. Pots = people, so if you find an Egyptian pot in ancient China the author of the chapter Laurel read would probably say that it was an Egyptian migration to China.

[lbestock]

"Pots aren't people" is an old archaeological adage that despite being a classic gets violated all the time. You find a Nubian pot, not a Nubian person. And "Nubian" as defining pottery is an archaeological category anyway, we have no idea what its actual relationship is to people who felt themselves to be a group at all, let alone a Nubian group. But you'd be amazed how often people find Nubian pots and leap to assuming they are looking at Nubians.

[urapadmin]

aha

[urapadmin]

sure

[urapadmin]

🪴 only potted plants, no :pot

[lbestock]

Is that a potted pot plant?

[urapadmin]

yes

[lbestock]

How can you tell its species with your antiquated Brille?

[urapadmin]

I also feel a pit potty

[lbestock]

Wittgenstein this ticket is not. I blame the weather on two continents.