xsns_53_sml.ino there are no negative values on some 2 way electricity meters

[honikos]

Have you looked for this feature in other issues and in the docs?
yes, found no solution but hints for the problem

Is your feature request related to a problem? Please describe.
My electricity meter (EMH ED300 L) gives always positive values for D_TPWRCURR "Current-In/Out" but "Current Out" should give negative values

Describe the solution you'd like
In dependence of a hex value, which I maybe have to identify, there could be a negative value. In my case I could identify the hex value which shows if the power is coming in or goes out. Would be nice to be able to make values negative if the meter does measure outgoing power. Is it possible to have a descriptor / variable to use for this issue? Details see: https://forum.creationx.de/forum/index.php?thread/1095-d0-z%C3%A4hler-sml-auslesen-mit-tasmota/&postID=31606#post31606

Describe alternatives you've considered
Don't see an alternative because I do not have enough programming knowledge.

Additional context
This feature is necessary because graphs show false pictures an maybe I can do more logical controlling if I get the correct value vor In / Out Power

(Please, remember to close the issue when the problem has been addressed)

[Jason2866]

You posted in creationx forum where Gemu is active. He is the author of this driver. Please ask there too for help. @gemu2015 Can you take a look into?

[kugelkopf123]

You posted in creationx forum where Gemu is active. He is the author of this driver. Please ask there too for help. @gemu2015 Can you take a look into?

I had already tried to answer this question in the forum. However, the code would actually have to be adapted. If I understood it correctly, it is about the fact that the consumption value has a different sign depending on whether energy is being consumed or fed in. So it is not about two different values where one value stands for the consumption and the other for the feed-in but a value that covers both.

@honikos I hope I have understood this correctly.

[honikos]

If I understood it correctly, it is about the fact that the consumption value has a different sign depending on whether energy is being consumed or fed in.

At the moment there is no distinction between consumption or feed-in. Per definition the value shows only the energy in W. But it makes sence to have a negative value when the meter measures feed-in (s. picture).

So it is not about two different values where one value stands for the consumption and the other for the feed-in but a value that covers both.

As mentioned above it is one value which could give more information as only track the actual energy. It ist possible to show the direction of energy flow ( - / negative if feed-in).

@kugelkopf123 don't know if understood .... hope it helps.

[gemu2015]

according to the data sheet this meter does NOT support negative values on current power! This is not a fault of the sml decoder which of cause works with negative values if supported by the meter (e.g 2 way meter EHZ363)

[matzefisi]

Hi guys, just found this issue and I am facing the same problem. The direction information is stored in the status part of the 108 and 208 messages. So if there is an easy way to parse the "A2" or "82" we can do the calculation on our own in the script.

77070100010800FF 640101 A2 01 621E 52FF 56 0001450FA101 --> Bezug 77070100010800FF 640101 82 01 621E 52FF 56 000145A40201 --> Einspeisung

Update: I found the input for the statusword here on page 31 when I developed a first SML module for FHEM: https://www.vde.com/resource/blob/951000/252eb3cdf1c7f6cdea10847be399da0d/fnn-lastenheft-edl-1-0-2010-01-13-data.pdf

Best regards Matthias

[gemu2015]

thanks Matthias for the hint (energy direction in status)

ok silly meter why not returning a signed current power value?

However i did put the status into a script variable

enabled by

define ED300L

var=sml(mn 2) mn=meter number

returns the value in question (a2 or 82) as decimal

its on my fork, if tested i make a pr

files affected scripter and sml

https://github.com/gemu2015/Sonoff-Tasmota

[matzefisi]

Hi gemu, great. Thanks! I will give a try and report back. Matthias

[matzefisi]

Hi again, used the lunchbreak to reflash the ESP and added your config. Hope I understood the structure correct:

Config

`>D
>B
=>sensor53 r
>M 2
+1,13,s,0,9600,SML
+2,4,c,0,50,Haus
1,77070100010800ff@1000,Verbrauch,KWh,Total_in,2
1,77070100020800ff@1000,Einspeisung,KWh,Total_out,2
1,770701000F0700FF@1,Aktuell,W,current,0
1,77070100000009ff@#,Meter Nr,,Meter_number,0
2,=h==================
2,77070100010800ff@1000,Total Verbrauch,KWh,Total_in,4
2,77070100010800ff@1000,Total Einspeisung,KWh,Total_out,4
>S
print %sml("797422-5001138" 2)%
#`

But as result I get only a 0.00 in the console. I also tried meter number 1, but the result stays the same. Do I have an error in my script?

12:35:41 MQT: tasmota/smartmeter/tele/SENSOR = {"Time":"2020-03-27T12:35:41","SML":{"Total_in":18480.81,"Total_out":32976.35,"current":4573,"Meter_number":"797422-5001138"},"Haus":{"Total_in":0.0000,"Total_out":0.0000}}
12:35:41 0.00
12:35:42 0.00
12:35:43 0.00
12:35:44 0.00
12:35:45 0.00
12:35:46 0.00

[honikos]

Looks like "Haus" is not your SML meter. Should be the first one. So maybe false meter number ?

[matzefisi]

Nope, Haus can be ignored for now. I am waiting for a replacement of my second meter. I want to have it running for meter 1 (SML). That´s the EDL300.

So I also tried print %sml(1 2)%. But this also does not work.

[gemu2015]

ok is this status only transmitted on 180 and 280 and not on the others? then i have to decode this also, will update this afternoon.

[matzefisi]

Correct. Only 180 and 280. Thanks!

[gemu2015]

next try !

[matzefisi]

Unfortunately I cannot compile it. And with my poor C knowledge I cannot spot the error.

Sonoff-Tasmota-universal8\tasmota\xsns_53_sml.ino: In function 'uint32_t SML_Status(uint32_t)':
xsns_53_sml:2082:10: error: 'sml_status' was not declared in this scope
   return sml_status[meter];

[gemu2015]

did you type

define ED300L

in your user config overwrite ?

[matzefisi]

Oh man, I mixed it up with the EDL300. Now it worked. Sorry. I get now a 162 in decimal in the console. So it seems to work. I will have another look in the afternoon when the sun goes away. Then I would expect a 130 in decimal (82 hex). Thank you very much! Now I have to figure out how I can bring this value into the webinterface and calculate the value for MQTT, but this is well documented. I will post my solution here.

Update: Sun is gone and value changed to 130. So works like a charm.

Update2: This is now my script for adding a new value with correct +/- values. Maybe not perfect, but it does its job. Thanks again gemu2015 for the fast support!

>D
sml1state=0
currentwatt=0
>B
=>sensor53 r

>T
currentwatt=SML#current
if sml(1 2)==162
then
sml1state=-1
else 
sml1state=1
endif
currentwatt=currentwatt*sml1state

>J
,"current:%currentwatt%

>W
==================
SML Aktuell +/- </th><td>%currentwatt% W</td>

>M 2
+1,13,s,0,9600,SML
+2,4,c,0,50,Haus

1,77070100010800ff@1000,Verbrauch,KWh,Total_in,2
1,77070100020800ff@1000,Einspeisung,KWh,Total_out,2
1,770701000F0700FF@1,Aktuell,W,current,0
1,77070100000009ff@#,Meter Nr,,Meter_number,0
2,=h==================
2,77070100010800ff@1000,Total Verbrauch,KWh,Total_in,4
2,77070100010800ff@1000,Total Einspeisung,KWh,Total_out,4
#

[gemu2015]

new version available the new version directly inverts current power (770701000F0700FF ) on solar feed, so you should get negative values so this stupid meter should be fixed!

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[honikos]

@gemu2015 For me it doesn't work out of the box.
part of my user_config_override.h:

ifndef ED300L

define ED300L

endif

ifndef USE_SCRIPT

define USE_SCRIPT # adds about 17k flash size, variable ram size

endif

ifndef USE_SML_M

define USE_SML_M

endif

ifdef USE_RULES

undef USE_RULES

endif

define SML_MAX_VARS 5

@matzefisi Do I need all this stuff if I use #define ED300L ? As @gemu2015 wrote, I would expect a negative output for line 1,770701000F0700FF@1,Aktuell,W,current,0

but I get a high value .... (think its without decimal ...)

[kugelkopf123]

@honikos Had you used the version from @gemu2015 fork?

_{Sent with GitHawk}

[honikos]

@kugelkopf123 Yes I did.

[gemu2015]

try new version (bug removed)

[honikos]

ok, did it. Value looks good. Now waiting for the sun. Will give feedback when I have feed-in.

[honikos]

perfect. it works :-) should be merged into the base branch. hope that there are other meters with same behavior. can maybe be solved by script.

@gemu2015 Thank you!

[bejoup]

hey there. I have the same problem with a smartmeter EMH EHZ-HW which is not sending negtive values when i produce Solar energy. I red a lot about the problem, but i didn't found a solution for that.. Even in this post, which is the same problem. Can you help me with the right script? here are some examples: Positive Values 00:09:16.288 : 77 07 01 00 0f 07 00 ff 01 01 62 1b 52 ff 55 00 00 0a 09 01 00:09:16.288 : 77 07 01 00 0f 07 00 ff 01 01 62 1b 52 ff 55 00 00 0a 09 01 Negative Values - producing Energy 20:06:15.752 : 77 07 01 00 0f 07 00 ff 01 01 62 1b 52 ff 55 00 00 0e 5c 01 19:34:47.255 : 77 07 01 00 0f 07 00 ff 01 01 62 1b 52 ff 55 00 00 08 17 01 19:34:42.917 : 77 07 01 00 0f 07 00 ff 01 01 62 1b 52 ff 55 00 00 08 c6 01 19:34:25.521 : 77 07 01 00 0f 07 00 ff 01 01 62 1b 52 ff 55 00 00 09 d1 01

[honikos]

hi @bejoup you need this alternative firmware. https://github.com/gemu2015/Sonoff-Tasmota

[bejoup]

hi @bejoup you need this alternative firmware. https://github.com/gemu2015/Sonoff-Tasmota

Thank you @honikos ! Is it possible to flash on a hichi-wifi device? And afterwards the Skripts above should work?

[gemu2015]

@bejoup you do not need my fork! everything according SML driver is merged into tasmota. read the docs, there are hints for this problem (https://tasmota.github.io/docs/Smart-Meter-Interface/#special-commands) the hitchi driver should already be up to date, but just in case you may update hitchi firmware without problems see also here for more hints: https://ottelo.jimdofree.com/stromzähler-auslesen-tasmota/

[honikos]

@gemu2015 , fantastic. I wasn't aware that SML drivers since version 12.x are included in tasmota. Thank you for clarification.

[bejoup]

Thank you for the links and useful information. It is Tasmota 12.3.1 preinstalled on the hichi. I red all the sides already, but it is not solving my problem. The ED300L Problem is quite simillar, but my smart meter EHZ-HW does not transfer the right OBIS -Code 77070100020800ff. The smart meter only tranfer following: OBIS (hex)	OBIS	Name	Wert	Einheit	Parsed
0x0100000009ff	0.0.9	Geräteeinzelidentifikation
0x0100010800ff	1.8.0	Zählerstand Total	463101326	Wh	46310132.6Wh (Zählerstand Total)
0x0100010801ff	1.8.1	Zählerstand Tarif 1	463101326	Wh	46310132.6Wh (Zählerstand Tarif 1)
0x0100010802ff	1.8.2	Zählerstand Tarif 2	0	Wh	0.0Wh (Zählerstand Tarif 2)
0x01000f0700ff	15.7.0	Unbekannter Datentyp	2569	W	256.9W (Unbekannter Datentyp)

The send or receive tag must be somewhere else. But I can‘t find it in the console output yet. I will try to find the right tag an post it here. @gemu2015 i am not sure if i am on the right way… as far as i understand, the Bit is changing in Hex Code and it is not readable in the OBIS

[gemu2015]

https://demo.volkszaehler.org/pipermail/volkszaehler-dev/2017-April/005591.html

this must be coded in special option 1, see docs again

try this , probably edit flag and or bit position

1,=so1,00010800,63,11,63,11,000f0700

[bejoup]

I will try it. But its hard to guess the right flag. The documentation says: M,=so1	special SML option for meters that use a bit in the status register to sign import or export like ED300L, AS2020 or DTZ541 e.g. 1,=so1,00010800,65,11,65,11,00100700 for DTZ5411. obis code that holds the direction bit, 2. Flag identifier, 3. direction bit, 4. second Flag identifier (some meters use 2 different flags), 5. second bit, 6 obis code of value to be inverted on direction bit.

77
07 01 00 01 08 00 FF 63 01 82
Minus 77
07 01 00 01 08 00 FF 63 01 A2
Plus I will try it when the sun comes back ;) Thank you Gemu

[bejoup]

So, at least i found the direction flag in my saved protocols: Positiv (no energy producing) 77 07 01 00 01 08 00 FF 77 07 01 00 01 08 00 FF 63 01 82 01 62 1e 52 ff 56 00 1b 9a 5d 8e 01 Solar-Production (negativ) 77 07 01 00 01 08 00 FF 77 07 01 00 01 08 00 FF 63 01 b0 01 62 1e 52 ff 56 00 1b b2 3e 9e 01

@gemu2015 do you know how to find out the right direction bit? What means 11 in the code? 63 looks right. 1,=so1,00010800,63,11,63,11,000f0700

[gemu2015]

11 is the bit number

in your meter 2 bits change 82 -> b0

63 indicates a 16 bit value (so bit 0 .. 15), so you may try bit 1 or bit 5 1,=so1,00010800,63,1,63,1,000f0700

[bejoup]

Yesterday the sun was back an i tried to get a negative values, but it didnˋt work. This is my Script. Is there something wrong?

D B =>sensor53 r M 1 +1,3,s,1,9600, 1,77070100010800ff@1000,Zaehlerstand_Total,KWh,Total_in,2 1,770701000f0700ff@1,Verbrauch_Aktuell,W,Power_curr,2
 1,=so1,00010800,63,5,63,5,000f0700 #

@gemu2015 i tried from 1 to 6, but Not one value changed to negative. Can I somehow show, which digit is used? Like a lineout of something?

[gemu2015]

i did put your raw values from above into an emulator and it works perfectly with your script from the last post, so 1,=so1,00010800,63,5,63,5,000f0700 is fine.

i hope your hitchi driver is up to date, otherwise he has updated drivers on request.

[bejoup]

Wow, thank you Gemu! How can i Check my hitchi driver Version? I only found some more Information about the Versions in the Web gui. Program Version | 12.3.1(tasmota) Builddate 2022-12-17T18:16:02 Core/SDK Version 2_7_4_9/2.2.2-dev(38a443e) ESP Chip Id | 1451788 (ESP8266EX)

I will try it again, when the sun is back.

[bejoup]

Update: no negative values yet. I wrote to hichi, and he is not sure, but it could be that the special commands only works with tasmota 13.0.0 I updatet my hichi now. I will have a look when the sun is back. @gemu2015 : I found a recent post about the special command-problem, where you also helped. https://github.com/arendst/Tasmota/discussions/17807

Hopefully it works now. Would be so nice. Greetings!

[bejoup]

It works! Today the first negative values. Tasmota 13.0.0 and the special command. @gemu2015 : thanks a lot for your support. Do you know how I can add this solution for my powermeter EMH EHZ-HW to the Tasmota Wiki? My script for negative Values in Tasmota 13.0.0 smart meter EMH EHZ-HW:

>D
>B

=>sensor53 r
>M 1
+1,3,s,16,9600,
1,77070100010800ff@1000,Zaehlerstand_Total,KWh,Total_in,2
1,770701000f0700ff@1,Verbrauch_Aktuell,W,Power_curr,2

1,=so1,00010800,63,5,63,5,000f0700
#