argonlefou / DemulShooter

Enable dual lightgun play in arcade games and emulator
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House of the Dead 2 and 3 PC version Player 2 won't work with Sinden Guns #162

Closed wild-child83 closed 10 months ago

wild-child83 commented 10 months ago

In the past I used Aimtrak Guns but upgraded them for Sinden Guns which I like more and are more accurate. House of the Dead remake PC version works like a charm with the latest patch and Demulshooter. and many Teknoparrot and other Mame and Model 2 and Model 3 games.

With my older Aimtrak guns Player 1 and 2 worked perfectly with an older version of Demulshooter that I used.

But Unfortuantly Hotd 2 and 3 PC Version player 2 wont work with the Sinden Guns and i Used the latest Demulshooter build... Demulshooter recognize Player 2 partially as player 1... in Hotd you can shoot as player 1 with Player 2 gun and Hotd2 it just not recognize Player 2... I setup them both up as keyboard as instructed but that also does not work. And setting them up standard (1x mouse + 1x keyboard) it also wont work.

My sinden guns works perfectly with HOTD Remake with Demulshooter so it's not my guns fault but an software issue!? Have someone managed to set HOTD 2 and 3 up with 2 working players with Sinden guns and the latest Demulshooter?

argonlefou commented 10 months ago

Aimtrak, Sinden, Gun4IR, etc..... doesn't make any difference. If it's working with one, it will work with the other (on a DemulShooter point of view, so when a device is correctly configured on itself)

So, theorically yes, Hotd2 and hod3pc are working perfectly fine with Sinden, a lot of people used them on the Sinden DISCORD channel I do not use them myself so I'm not the best to talk about them and how to properly make them work

Now there are more things in the chain than just "gun issue" or "software issue" : a game version can be unknown of demulshooter, some settings for Sinden or windows can be troublesole, etc....

First thing to do, in order to have a clearer view would be to provide DemulShooter log files for both games : https://github.com/argonlefou/DemulShooter/wiki/Debugging This would help me to check some details and try with the same configuration to see if something has been broken recently

Hotd2 is usually easy to configure on computer. Hotd3 looks like more troublesome for a lot of people, even if I never had any issue with it. You can also try this mod for Hod3PC (always with DemulShooter) to see if it 's working better (not saying to use this instead of the original game if you prefer the original better, but this can help to debug) :
https://github.com/argonlefou/Hotd3pc_ArcadeMod

wild-child83 commented 10 months ago

I am really not kidding with the Aimtrak both games work fine in the past with an older version of demulshooter with those 2x same versions of HOTD pc that i used. But I do play now both games in windowed mode (for Sinden) and do not use re-shade (fixed white border) with those games but I guess that doesn't matter?.... also when I choose both players keyboard mode with Sinden the player 1 controls also don't work well in the menu selection screen of HOTD while if you choose mouse + Keyboard control it does work fine. The Dpad for instance won't work when I choose both players keyboard of the SInden gun. I now use a different version of demulshooter as a few months ago that i Used for my aimtrak guns (those worked for years perfectly with your software on HOTD 2 and 3). I will provide some log files. And as a said other games like House of the Dead remake work fine... so it's only so far with HOTD 2 and 3 that I have this problem. I will also try demulshooter with Model 2 emulator to check if that works fine. Let you know soon.

I will also try to use your mod ( hopefully it's compatible with my HOTD3 version) looks really nice that arcade style!

argonlefou commented 10 months ago

I am really not kidding with the Aimtrak both games work fine in the past with an older version of demulshooter with those 2x same versions of HOTD pc that i used.

Never said you were kidding, but I know for sure that Aimtrak and Sinden are outputing exactly the same kind of values, so it the same for DemulShooter. If the Sinden is outputing correct values, of course

But I do play now both games in windowed mode (for Sinden) and do not use re-shade (fixed white border) with those games but I guess that doesn't matter?....

Windowed mode ? No, this could only impact axis accuracy but for those 2 games windowed mode is perfectly supported (that's how I run the games to develop) But for the white border, I don't know anything about it so it's up to you

also when I choose both players keyboard mode with Sinden the player 1 controls also don't work well in the menu selection screen of HOTD while if you choose mouse + Keyboard control it does work fine.

That kind of symptom is typical of DemulShooter not interracting with the game. So not correctly configured, not hooked to exe or broken in a update.

The Dpad for instance won't work when I choose both players keyboard of the SInden gun.

I don't know what DPad is doing with Sinden so, I kind of don't care Only interresting info would be axis, and mouse buttons (on and off screen)

I now use a different version of demulshooter as a few months ago that i Used for my aimtrak guns (those worked for years perfectly with your software on HOTD 2 and 3). I will provide some log files.

Yes please. Because even if I can have ideas by reading some descriptions, only the log file can provide me some precise info to start rulling out issues.

And please do not start to bring Model2 or whatever other game behaviour to compare and make some wrong conclusions, there is no use in that.. Sinden needs per game setup because of the borders so stick to the game and move on to another once it's done.

wild-child83 commented 10 months ago

OK THANKS FOR THE HOTH3 ARCADE MOD AND ALSO THE TEXTURE PATCH that you can download to improve the graphics! The game looks even better now and more arcade like too. And weird enough now both guns also works GREAT!!? When I choose Keyboard both and choose the arcade launcher.exe. So that is been solved!! Now to see if I can fix HOTD2 ass well and let you know.

wild-child83 commented 10 months ago

Fixed HOTD2 as well. Deleted the game completely and used an new DUMP and now it worked fine. SOrry for the trouble but atleast I got upgraded HOTD 3 now thanks to your info! Keep up the good work buddy!