Heavy Fire Shattered Spear ESC clears forced multiplayer

[thatman84]

Hi Argon,

I was setting this trilogy of games up (Afgan/Spear and Reload) and found that if you hit ESC on the 2nd player profile it will skip over and allow for single player. Not sure if you knew that or not.

Doesn't seem to work with Afganistan though, even if selecting the beta version in the game propertise of steam

Wondered how you are blocking the aimtrak gamepads as my DS3pad is always recognised even with the dll files installed?

[argonlefou]

Hi Argon,

I was setting this trilogy of games up (Afgan/Spear and Reload) and found that if you hit ESC on the 2nd player profile it will skip over and allow for single player. Not sure if you knew that or not.

No, I didn't

Wondered how you are blocking the aimtrak gamepads as my DS3pad is always recognised even with the dll files installed?

Demulshooter itself is not blocking the Aimtrak recognition (as a gamepad), they are blocked thanks to the dinput8.dll file (which is not made by me and I have no idea how it really work) Demulshooter is only bloking Axis and Buttons input for each players, so that the game is not overriding my inputs with wrong ones

And I'm not sure to properly understand the issue/question ? :/

[thatman84]

And I'm not sure to properly understand the issue/question ? :/

The issue was really to update the wiki with the esc key to cancel 2player profile select. Sorry I should have been more specific.

For the dinput8.dll blocking info I should have asked if you know anyway to prevent Heavy Fire Afghanistan from seeing my Xbox controller? (Other than unplugging)

[argonlefou]

The issue was really to update the wiki with the esc key to cancel 2player profile select. Sorry I should have been more specific.

Thanks ! I'll wait a little so that I can try it myself, and not write uncorrect details on the Wiki.

For the dinput8.dll blocking info I should have asked if you know anyway to prevent Heavy Fire Afghanistan from seeing my Xbox controller? (Other than unplugging)

Unfortunatelly, no. I was given this DLL by some other dev on the arcade hack community but I don't have DirectX / DirectInput knowledge. Again, can't test it right now but if I remember well, my gamepads were blocked (Sony DualShock3 + driver making them appear as X360 controller) I'll try ASAP and will report back

[thatman84]

Thanks ! I'll wait a little so that I can try it myself, and not write uncorrect details on the Wiki.

Makes sense 👍

Again, can't test it right now but if I remember well, my gamepads were blocked (Sony DualShock3 + driver making them appear as X360 controller) I'll try ASAP and will report back

Thanks. I am running the same, I will try testing again... Prob just some difference in OS, not a major thing really

[dev1981]

i am facing similar issues, i only tested HFA not SSpear. the latest exe of the game allows to skip P2 controller selection, if connected or not AND it fixes a massive shuttering issue which was fixed in on of the updates of the game developers.

so for me dinput8.dll is not longer required BUT if i use demulshooter with the latest version of the game, its simply crashing to Desktop.

now i am deadlocked :) so i can use the patched exe and the input DLL in combo with demul to play the game but have this massive every second shutter issue which finally makes it unplayable. And the new exe crashes in the second i load demul and it hooks. (it does, shortely demul icon goes green)

if i start the game until i am in the main menu and then start demulshooter it directely crashes the game to desktop. so hooking the exe might cause the crash. If i start demul BEFORE the game, it directely crashes after the developers logo.

BTW: SSpear is as well facing the shutter issue, but theres no fix for it and i am asuming they wont fix it. The game works for me with demul but is not fun to play because of that shutter.

regards

[argonlefou]

Hooking = crash is almost certainly due to the exe beeing different and needing different memory location to patch

As information, do you have any details on the "last update" version number ?

I don't know if anyone can use it as the game is available via Steam (surely with update) and..."offline"....

[dev1981]

Hooking = crash is almost certainly due to the exe beeing different and needing different memory location to patch

As information, do you have any details on the "last update" version number ?

I don't know if anyone can use it as the game is available via Steam (surely with update) and..."offline"....

the exe does not have a lot of informations on details. HeavyFire3_final.zip

i attached it, maybe it will help. If u need anything let me know, i am as well in the sinden discord.

greetings

[argonlefou]

Thanks, I will look at it in a couple if weeks when I will be back home

[argonlefou]

Sorry for the late answer... I published a new version of DemulShooter (v10.5.0) that should correct the issue :

Your exe looks like a STEAM version of the game, and unfortunatelly I can't test this version as I do not own this STEAM version. So I'm waiting for your feedback

If this does not work, try to run DemulShooter with the debug enabled (add -v option in the command line) and share the debug text file created in DemulShooter's folder

[dev1981]

Thank you for your efforts. I tried the latest version but it doesen´t seem to hook. find attached the debug log. The Icon in the tray stays as well red.

Debug_2022-04-06_13-38-13.txt

This info btw in the log -> Monitor maximum resolution = 1440 x 900 x 4294967296 Farben @ 60 Hz is defenetely not correct :)

grz

[argonlefou]

Thank you for your efforts. I tried the latest version but it doesen´t seem to hook. find attached the debug log. The Icon in the tray stays as well red.

Debug_2022-04-06_13-38-13.txt

The RED Icon means that DemulShooter is not hooking to the process (the debug file says the same things). By looking at the debug file, the game folder has not been set in DemulSHooter_GUI

This info btw in the log -> Monitor maximum resolution = 1440 x 900 x 4294967296 Farben @ 60 Hz is defenetely not correct :)

grz

No worries, that's useless for now, I'm not using it. This was for information purpose but not reliable to be really usefull.

[dev1981]

sry missed that out! was too long backwards i was fiddeling with it. additionally i validated my steam game files. its now working as expected. Thank u very much Sir. Quick question, is there as well a "hidden" nocrosshair mode?

[argonlefou]

sry missed that out! was too long backwards i was fiddeling with it. additionally i validated my steam game files. its now working as expected. Thank u very much Sir.

Great !

Quick question, is there as well a "hidden" nocrosshair mode?

You'll find No-Crosshair patch on the first message here : http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,149714.0.html They are just png files that I blanked. As I made ones for Heavy fire 3 & 4 very recently and as I have not played the whole games, there might be more cursor to hide or some to "un-hide"

[cangarujack]

Hi. With the codex version of shattered spear the stuttering problem is solved and demulshooter works fine. thanks

with the afghanistan, i have the same problem...crash at launch of the game with demulshooter active which version you have?

[argonlefou]

with the afghanistan, i have the same problem...crash at launch of the game with demulshooter active which version you have?

Can you share a demulshooter debug file ?

[cangarujack]

Debug_2022-04-11_18-36-25.txt

here is the file. I have tried various versions of the game (skidrow, prophet and the double pack version with reload) and the only one that doesn't have stuttering is the prophet. But with demulshooter go crash.

thanks for the help

[argonlefou]

You can try to rename the file: 3f49951ae8232817a91ef5503374d6b3.cfg in DemulShooter\MemoryData\windows\hfa folder to : 4344f54b91e7a8ef20042d5f0b6e04aa.cfg and try again (with debug file also)

But there's a (big) chance that won't work and in that case, you'll have to send me your executable file so that I can have a look at it

[cangarujack]

now the game starts! but the pointer goes where it wants very fast!

HeavyFire3_final.zip Debug_2022-04-11_20-54-00.txt

I would like to make you a small donation ... you are really kind

[argonlefou]

I would like to make you a small donation ... you are really kind

Thanks, but I'm just doing this on my spare time and I can't promise good results so...it won't be necessary ;-)

Can you try by replacing the file with this one ? 4344f54b91e7a8ef20042d5f0b6e04aa.zip

[cangarujack]

Hi, with the new file the mouse pointer does not appear... Here the log Debug_2022-04-12_19-13-46.txt

[argonlefou]

Hi, with the new file the mouse pointer does not appear... Here the log Debug_2022-04-12_19-13-46.txt

I don't know if it's related to the gun but based on your debug file, DemulShooter never got any "good" values from your Sinden gun (I mean, received values are good and understandable but axis values never changed : all of them are x=0 and Y=0)

[cangarujack]

because the pointer does not move ... neither with the sinden gun nor with the real mouse ... it remains stationary

[argonlefou]

That is the point : even if the game's hack is not adapted and axis values are not forced to good memory locations of the game, this has nothing to do with the input reading of the gun and the fact that the gun raw input axis should move and change

That's why with constant [0,0] data read by DemulSHooter you won't see the cursor move in game

Now, is the problem related to your OS, your Sinden, your version of the game, your border frame, your lightness in the room or DemulShooter blocking input system-wise (pretty sure that's not the case as there's no way it can do so)....I can't say for sure as I have not the whole game to play with this release.

[cangarujack]

I don't understand ... I don't know what to do ... thanks for the help and if you can think of anything else to try let me know

[cangarujack]

it works!!! i don't know what i did ... but now it works. I did various tests by copying the parameters from other shattered sprears .cfg files, and pasting them on afghanistan ... I don't remember how but now it works!

Last question: In my setup I use the 10.1.5 deumshooter version ... now that I have the latest v10.5.0, if I overwrite the old one, I don't have to reconfigure anything right? Just keep the same command lines I have various games and emulators that use demulshooter

[argonlefou]

Last question: In my setup I use the 10.1.5 deumshooter version ... now that I have the latest v10.5.0, if I overwrite the old one, I don't have to reconfigure anything right? Just keep the same command lines I have various games and emulators that use demulshooter

Overwriting DemulShooter's folder content won't replace the config.ini file (which contains all the user settings for DemulShooter) There are a few newer items going from 10.1.5 to 10.5.0 but it should cause no issue if they are not present in the config file. Anyway, if you run DemulShooter_GUI and save, this will write default values for non existing values.