Arguman.org is down since a few days

[swergas]

Hi, The arguman.org website and its local versions seem to be down since a few days

[sercanarga]

I think arguman.org is dead. :(

[memetic007]

looks to have been hacked to promote some pernicious chrome extension.

[Venryx]

Yes, the domain seems to have been bought by someone who turned it into an ad page or something.

The source-code on the domain contains a reference to 0redirc.com; googling it gives some results, including: https://www.reddit.com/r/webdev/comments/nfq0bm/fighting_back_against_scam_texts

It's interesting that the source-code also contains reference to swfobject.js, which is probably used to get more information about the user's computer to "fingerprint" them, ie. identify the user for long-term tracking. This is supported by this section in the JS code:

debugInfo = gl.getExtension('WEBGL_debug_renderer_info');
vendor = gl.getParameter(debugInfo.UNMASKED_VENDOR_WEBGL);
renderer = gl.getParameter(debugInfo.UNMASKED_RENDERER_WEBGL);
gstr = vendor+' - '+renderer;
 
//limit & encode
gpu = '&gpu='+encodeURI(gstr.substring(0,200));

[...]

window.location.replace(a + b + c+vs+ds+sl+os+nos+swfV+inside_frame+sc+gpu);

[plehman2000]

Unfortunate that noone really uses it. Difficult and in depth debating is not a popular pasttime. Hopefully we can change that in the future

[raisercostin]

I assume the content was also lost. Right? This screams for #ownyourdata and github as database archive for arguments.

[joaosimuai]

Wow. I just discovered it today, ahaha. Something must be done, as it is actively misleading users

[jayaddison]

The arguman service is available again at https://arguman.org - although only in Türkçe (Turkish) language so far I think. It would be impressive if historic debate data could be restored (I have no connection with the site operators so I don't know whether backups are available).

[marienhof]

Let's resurrect the English version! Even if in a tabula rasa state.

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The arguman service is available again at https://arguman.org - although only in Türkçe (Turkish) language so far I think. It would be impressive if historic debate data could be restored (I have no connection with the site operators so I don't know whether backups are available).

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[mirkan1]

how come nobody has a stable version?

[sercanarga]

arguman.org has been maintained all this time by a turkish developer. in 2021, this is one of the last posts from him;

[mirkan1]

I recalled that he made us work on a website about a book of Nisanyan, Today I understood how you felt. Nonetheless, this repository deserves to be alive again