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New Name for the Project #455

Open Nokarii opened 1 year ago

Nokarii commented 1 year ago

I think a new Name for the Project could be useful to increase discoverability and reduce confusion between Atom and Atom Community.

A bit more context: As seen a while ago with Streamlabs OBS and normal OBS, users were confused because they both had OBS in their Name and so it could also confuse people with Atom and Atom Community. (More context about Streamlabs and OBS: https://twitter.com/OBSProject/status/1460782968633499651)

It could also increase discoverability, I could find the project easily by searching for atom community on Google, but if people would just search for Atom or Atom Editor of course it wouldn't show up at all.

Both IntelliJ and Visual Studio have free versions that are named Community, which probably unlikely, but still could lead to someone who never heard of Atom before thinking that Atom Community is also just a free version of Atom.

And my last point is that if someone is talking about Editors and you say that you use Atom or Atom Community, the other person could think that you talk about the old Atom Editor as they probably never heard about Atom Community, but if you would say I use insert new name they could become interested what kind of Code Editor it is and check it out.

Of course, it would also have the con that by the Atom Community name it is more clear that it's a Community driven fork of Atom than by a completely new name.

A possible new name could be something related to Atom, since Atom Editor and Electron already exists and Proton is a Tool from valve, I would suggest Neutron Editor.

zhaolinlau commented 1 year ago

I prefer Phantom

manngo commented 1 year ago

Neutron’s good. How about Positron?

Since it’s a spin-off, how about Electron Spin?

aminya commented 1 year ago

We have already been using "atomic" for some of the packages. I think that's a good balance between a new name and keeping the nostalgia of Atom. https://github.com/atom-community?q=atomic&type=all&language=&sort=

I'm reluctant to use new names that have nothing to do with our history. Name squatting for a project that will not have massive changes is not a good idea.

meadowsys commented 1 year ago

There has actually been a vote in the atom-community discord server, and Pulsar was the winning name by a long, long way. We have since split off into our own project here.

aminya commented 1 year ago

Not sure if referring to that poll is a good measure. It had scary non-legal descriptions for some of the options that discouraged people from choosing those (e.g. for atomic). The number of people who participated in the poll was insufficient, and even if it was, it didn't even make the majority.

Poll ![image](https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/16418197/182506086-ac49b841-4ef2-4c55-85b2-d3a941686432.png)
manngo commented 1 year ago

There has actually been a vote in the atom-community discord server, and Pulsar was the winning name by a long, long way. We have since split off into our own project here.

Sorry, I’m confused. Is that a fork of a fork or in competition with with Atom Community?

confused-Techie commented 1 year ago

@aminya as the person that wrote those descriptions it wasn't intended to be scary to anyone. But really if its numbers that are the concern the full poll is as follows: image With 11 votes for both Pulsar/Pulsar-Edit. Which is why our org was named Pulsar-Edit and Pulsar for the editor.

But really it seems dishonest to say the descriptions were to drive votes away. The reason all of those say edited, is because originally it was just a list of names. @ThatXliner was the one suggested that I write a short description of what some issues some of them had were. image

I'm not arguing if enough people voted, or anything, just please don't attribute my words to any type of maliciousness, since there was none meant at any point.

aminya commented 1 year ago

I didn't mean to say it was intentional. But the outcome conveyed negative words.

By non-legal I meant inaccurate legal words.

MIT license doesn't have trademark protection. Even if we just sell Atom with the name Atom, they cannot take this to the court.

https://github.com/atom/atom/blob/master/LICENSE.md

None of the registered trademarks in the US is related to the Atom text editor.

The only trademark note I could find is related to the icon itself. Which we don't plan to use anyways. Atom-community has its icon.

https://github.com/logos https://github.com/atom/atom#license

confused-Techie commented 1 year ago

@aminya That's great to know, and could've been helpful during the days of discussion about possible legal issues as people did research into the topic. But I don't really have a horse in this race anymore.

But appreciate the clarification and the edit from 'to discourage' to 'that discouraged' on your previous comment, to remove the insinuation that I had done it purposefully and maliciously.

As for the original poster here I do think a new name to get new exposure is a great idea. Apologies for the irrelevant discussion.

A-Kun commented 1 year ago

I think there's already a name Atomic? It's literally in the name of this organization.

I like the name Atomic because it resembles VSCode and VSCodium - one is the official version, one is the community-driven distribution.

mikwee commented 1 year ago

I'm new to this community version - although not with Atom - but Atomic sounds like a great name.

vlad0337187 commented 1 year ago

Project isn't that popular, so I think currently it shouldn't change name - it'll loose it's popularity more.

Maybe currently would be better to focus on ways to download and use it, maybe simplify pipelines.