[Discussion] Section 2 "Extant use of Digital Object Identifiers in Archives": Collections

[gilleslandais]

Note: the subsections looks like DCAT resources (https://www.w3.org/TR/vocab-dcat-3/#dcat-scope)- Dcat provides a semantic of Resources that can be datasets, collections and services with their possible relationships. Just note, that it is difficult to link a dataset with a service in Datacite schema.

• Collections Can you define what is a Collection ? ex: list of resources published separately that could be in different types and organized as children from a common Resource. (for instance list of individual spectra and a catalogue of the observations)

Questions:

• "There is no expectation that this collection DOIs would ever themselves collection attribution (citations)" ? did you mean DOI used for internal purpose only ?
• about VAMDC, did you mension the QueryStore (that allows to assign DOI on a result query) ? citing VAMDC here, is it to give an example of DOI including the origin in relationships ? Do you propose to explain how to manage collection taking into account their relationship so that it responds to the citation need ?

Note: talking about relations opens the door on relationship that can link external resources too ... (do we have to talk about that?)

• Services How to understand Service?

  1. is it a Service ~organization including staaf and all materials (eg: VizieR service) eg: (organisation) vizier: https://cds.unistra.fr/registry/?verb=GetRecord&metadataPrefix=ivo_vor&identifier=ivo://cds.vizier
  2. (or) is it a web service ? (eg: TAPVizieR) eg: (web service) tapvizier: https://cds.unistra.fr/registry/?verb=GetRecord&metadataPrefix=ivo_vor&identifier=ivo://CDS.vizier/TAP

  For me, the paragraph with Collection is confusing - do you want to make the link between service and dataset ? (in that case (1) can be done, (2) is more difficult according to the metadata of Datacite)

• Knowledgebases Ok for definition. For me , we can create DOI for a knowledge database as a particular case of Dataset (with incremental dataset option) not sure to understand the scope ...

[augustfly]

This thread is only on the topic: Collection DOIs. @gilleslandais originally wrote:

Collections Can you define what is a Collection ? ex: list of resources published separately that could be in different types and organized as children from a common Resource. (for instance list of individual spectra and a catalogue of the observations) Questions:

• "There is no expectation that this collection DOIs would ever themselves collection attribution (citations)" ? did you mean DOI used for internal purpose only ?
• about VAMDC, did you mension the QueryStore (that allows to assign DOI on a result query) ? citing VAMDC here, is it to give an example of DOI including the origin in relationships ? Do you propose to explain how to manage collection taking into account their relationship so that it responds to the citation need ?

[augustfly]

This introductory section was updated but @gilleslandais's questions are not yet addressed. I'm not sure "how" VAMDC is relevant (though it is interesting) which is why I move it to an Appendix. However CDA's collection DOIs are much more relevant to this section, and I plan to give some examples of how to mint these relationships. But not in this section. In the Workflow section.