Bossmod visible in xbox windows dvr and obs

[rrbailey89]

Is it possible to make it not show up when using game recording.

[Dubsys]

No.

[Nox13last]

No, but also ethically, no. If you're going to cheat, you can't pretend in your recording that you're playing legitimately. That's the trade-off.

[vertigo-red]

Workaround is double monitor setup.

No, but also ethically, no. If you're going to cheat, you can't pretend in your recording that you're playing legitimately. That's the trade-off.

I don't think ethics apply at all here, because the plugins themselves are already in violation of the ToS.

[Nox13last]

I don't think ethics apply at all here, because the plugins themselves are already in violation of the ToS.

Correct reasoning, but incorrect conclusion IMO. It's against the terms of service to use any plugin, mod, or "aftermarket" thing to change the way the game works. But I rely on plugins that make my cursor more visible against visual-noise so I get to play the game the same as everyone else. I relied on a Combat Parser once because my BLM output felt bad and I needed solid numbers to tell me that I was doing something wrong, something that the game doesn't do. And as a combat mentor, I still use ACT to troubleshoot players who ask me why pressing the buttons doesn't feel good.

It wouldn't be unethical to use Splatoon to highlight every Gathering Point nearby. But it would be to use it highlight every player using a Healer Role so I can decimate them in PvP. It wouldn't be unethical to use Cammy to look at architectural bullshit that the camera can't get to, but it was certainly unethical to use it to get that World First Clear a while ago.

As with everything else, "legal doesn't mean ethical", and the inverse is also true. For stuff like this, the ethics have to be kept squeaky-clean by the people who use it, or Squeenix will crack down on it, something they didn't feel like doing until someone used them to fuck with the competitive spirit of the game (the World First Clear). So yes. Ethics definitely apply, because the modding scene depends on them. Dalamud and ACT are already on pretty thin-ice with Squeenix, and it's only by the community's good behaviour and respect that they don't feel the need to enforce with an iron-fist.

So when someone else wants to know how to pass off their cheating as legitimate play, damn them and damn any workaround - that will only lead to trouble for everyone else down the road.

[vertigo-red]

How can you talk about ethics when there is no generally accepted norm to use plugins? Most of the community do not use plugins. They have a norm of behavior - compliance with the ToS. What you're talking about is morality. Your personal idea of good and evil.

that will only lead to trouble for everyone else down the road

The people using the plugins have agreed to accept the risk and consequences.

[awgil]

I have no plans to accommodate for hiding the plugin windows specifically for streams, or in general make it more streaming-friendly (but neither I have any plans to actively prevent any workarounds - if something like putting a window on a second monitor works - good for you).

This is a personal project that I do for fun (since for me spending 10 hours reverse engineering how fights work, how to optimize rotations etc. is infinitely more interesting than spending 10 hours building muscle memory and learning visual cues), and I don't care about streaming like at all.

You are welcome to use this plugin however you see fit, if you do something stupid and it leads to you getting banned or getting booed by community for trying to mislead or whatever - that's on you.