[EKS/Fargate] [request]: Fargate custom security groups

[tsndqst]

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Tell us about your request Add option to specify custom security groups for Fargate Profiles in EKS.

Which service(s) is this request for? EKS

Tell us about the problem you're trying to solve. What are you trying to do, and why is it hard? We control application access to RDS via VPC Security Groups. Without the option of specifying security groups in Fargate Profiles we would probably could not restrict RDS access down to only those things that need access. For example, there currently does not appear to be a way to utilize option 3 from https://docs.aws.amazon.com/AmazonRDS/latest/UserGuide/Overview.RDSSecurityGroups.html#Overview.RDSSecurityGroups.Scenarios.

Are you currently working around this issue? Currently we are creating our own EC2 worker node groups in ASGs with specific security groups. This gives us the access control we need but means the pod density is very low on these hosts (the only apps that run on these nodes are those that are allowed to access a specific RDS instance).

There are other workarounds but they are all less than ideal:

1. Open access to an entire EKS cluster. This results in one EKS cluster per app. If we use this method it would have high cost and low pod density.
2. Open access to an entire subnet. If we use this method we would have to keep track to IP address allocation and many subnets. EKS clusters have to be recreated if we add/remove subnets.
3. CNI Custom Networking with ENIConfig. EKS already has low pod density due to limitations in the current CNI. Reducing that further with Custom Networking makes this option very unattractive.
4. Wait for the Next Generation CNI from AWS. While the features of this CNI sound great there is no indication it will be available any time soon.

Additional context In addition to RDS there are other components that utilize security groups for access control such as ElastiCache and Elasticsearch Service.

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[ezra-freedman]

I am in the same boat, thanks for submitting. I'm currently considering your workaround 2) (open access to entire subnet). Can you explain how your workaround 1) works? Is there an option to define a security group rule based on source EKS cluster?

1. Open access to an entire EKS cluster. This results in one EKS cluster per app. If we use this method it would have high cost and low pod density.

[tsndqst]

@ezra-freedman I may not have described that well. I meant that you configure all workers for that cluster to have the same security group when you create them. Doing it this way would avoid targeting specific workloads (pods) to specific workers or worker groups. But you would have to deploy specific workloads to specific clusters.

[yann-soubeyrand]

Related to https://github.com/aws/containers-roadmap/issues/609.

[bsmedberg-xometry]

Can somebody from AWS guide me as to whether this is something I could submit a PR for (and if so, which repository), or whether this is managed by AWS-proprietary code?

[tomwidmer]

Any chance this will land in Q1 or Q2 2021?

@bsmedberg-xometry Presumably this is Amazon proprietary code for Fargate. Given that it's already supported by both ECS Fargate and now EKS EC2 instances (since https://aws.amazon.com/blogs/containers/introducing-security-groups-for-pods/ ), it seems like most of the code to do it is already written.

[daisuke-yoshimoto]

@mikestef9 Any update on this?

[mikestef9]

Hey all,

You can now assign custom security groups to pods running on AWS Fargate. This is available on v1.18 and above clusters, and you need to be running the latest EKS platform version for the corresponding Kubernetes minor version.

• Docs
• What's New

One important note to keep in mind - Previously, every Fargate pod got assigned the EKS cluster security group, which ensured the Fargate pod could communicate with the Kubernetes control plane and join the cluster. With custom security groups, you are responsible for ensuring the correct security group rules are opened to enable this communication. The easiest way to accomplish this is to simply specify the cluster security group ID as one of the custom security groups to assign to Fargate pods.

[quickbooks2018]

I upgraded my cluster to v1.20, with eks.2 platform version, and yet my Fargate pods are stuck in a pending state since 30min.

I whitelisted the DNS ports, and added the cluster security group inside the groupIds of the Security Group Policy that Im attaching to the pod.

There are proper security group annotations on the pod too.

Name:               xxxx
Namespace:            xxxxx
Priority:             2000001000
Priority Class Name:  system-node-critical
Node:                 <none>
Labels:               app=xxxx
                      eks.amazonaws.com/fargate-profile=xxx
                      role=xxx
                      rollouts-pod-template-hash=85846d84b8
Annotations:          CapacityProvisioned: 0.25vCPU 0.5GB
                      Logging: LoggingDisabled: LOGGING_CONFIGMAP_NOT_FOUND
                      fargate.amazonaws.com/pod-sg: sg-xxxx,sg-xxxx,sg-xxxx
                      kubernetes.io/psp: eks.privileged
Status:               Pending

Something I may be missing?

It is very difficult to debug this issue, there are no errors anywhere.

[quickbooks2018]

Any Solution ???

[quickbooks2018]

Eks Version 19

[foxylion]

@Hunter-Thompson @quickbooks2018 You might better open a support ticket within the AWS console. The will help you quickly.

[Tzrlk]

@mikestef9, it looks like this ticket was closed prematurely, as the solution you offered doesn't actually solve the specified problem. At the moment, fargate profiles are added to the security group created during cluster creation that has open security rules both in and out.

What they and myself are after, is the ability to specify which security groups the fargate profiles are added to during profile specification, not the individual pods.