[FireLens] [request]: FireLens/Fluent Bit as a unified observability solution

[PettitWesley]

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Tell us about your request At the moment, users often run 2 - 3 side cars or daemons for observability. Fluent Bit/FireLens takes care of logs, but then you need a metrics agent and a tracing agent. This proliferation of agents adds management overhead.

We are evaluating turning Fluent Bit into a more general observability solution. The community is already working on a Statsd input support.

This idea is very early-stage; please give us your thoughts and let us know if you think it would be valuable.

Which service(s) is this request for? Fargate, EKS, ECS

Update: Please see the comments, plans have changed. AWS Distro for OT will be our unified router.

[binarylogic]

Hey @PettitWesley, I can confirm this is a valuable idea, but would it be possible to consider vector.dev as an additional option? This was part of our original design and Vector currently solves this problem. You can see a list of metrics integrations here and log integrations here. Information on our data model is here.

We'd love the opportunity to work with you and AWS. We're big fans of AWS, Firelens, ECS, and EKS. I believe Vector would be a fantastic option for your users. We've been seeing a lot of success and happy users (over 100K downloads per day), and I'd be happy to refer to you a number of happy Vector users. Let me know!

[PettitWesley]

Update: This initiative will possibly not use Fluent Bit; instead, we are evaluating the incubating CNCF project OpenTelemetry. The project has contribution and involvement from a large set of monitoring providers; the OpenTelemetry Collector is evolving into a unified telemetry router.

Nothing is set in stone; this initiative is still very much "Under consideration".

[singhkays]

@PettitWesley I'm looking into FluentBit as a metrics collector as well and came across this. Can you share if there were reasons other than the emergence of OpenTelemetry that led to dropping this idea?

[PettitWesley]

@singhkays The emergence of OpenTelemetry was the main factor- I think its important to have a robust community focused on solving the same problems. Fluent Bit/Fluentd are great for logging because that's what the community and maintainers are focused on. OpenTelemetry is full of experts who care about metrics/tracing.

Besides that, the OpenTelemetry collector is also written in Golang. That's a huge advantage that puts it ahead of other projects in C (Fluent Bit) and Rust. I think Go sits at a very good point on all tradeoffs for a language- easy to learn, large number of devs who already know it, easy to write code in, but still performant enough.

[awsiv]

I think having open telemetry as unified solution is the right direction. We are already using it for x-ray and not having to add another sidecar for log routing would be a huge plus!

[PettitWesley]

Yeah AWS Distro for OpenTelemetry is the future of open source telemetry collection at AWS for all signals, logs, metrics, traces (may be more things in the future). It'll take some time before its fully ready for all prod use cases though.