Closed stpaultim closed 1 month ago
Is there a good reason for this inconsistency between the use of visibility and access on this specific page?
Yes, the bottom Add visibility condition
is universal, whereas the form element label Access condition
appears only on this page.
Can we fix this on this page alone or does this have much broader implications?
Both? I have a crazy idea....
Would it be better if this page looks like this (changing link from "Add visibility condition" to "Add access condition")? Does this have ramifications for other parts of the UI?
Yes, but...
AND if so, should this be change from "Visibility Conditions" to "Visibility or Access Conditions"?
What about simply "Conditions" / "Add condition"?
If we use the distinct labels (unique to each form ) to define what type of condition it is, then a more generic Add condition
underneath would fit all Scenarios. See examples below.
We discussed this today in the weekly meeting and everyone seems to think simplifying down to simply "Conditions" for the link and table header is a good solution. We'd still leave "Access conditions" and "Visibility conditions" as labels above the form element (as in Jen's screenshots above).
PR filed at https://github.com/backdrop/backdrop/pull/4872. This was a very minor change plus lots and lots of test updates, so 🤞
This PR looks great. I confirmed it works as expected and test coverage is extensive on Layout conditions, both on blocks and layout configurations, so I'm confident this doesn't break any functionality.
It will however, break existing test coverage within contrib that adds Layout-related capabilities. I was thinking about https://github.com/backdrop-contrib/layout_wildcard (@bugfolder) and https://github.com/backdrop-contrib/mini_layouts (@docwilmot) in particular. But reading through their test coverage, it doesn't look like they use or test the string "Visibility condition" anywhere. So we might luck-out there.
String changes and test coverage are not considered backwards-compatibility breaking changes, so even if it does break contrib test coverage, it's still an acceptable change.
So all together, looks good to me.
Thanks @jenlampton and @stpaultim! Merged https://github.com/backdrop/backdrop/pull/4872 into 1.x for 1.29.0.
Description of the bug
I've been working on a couple of issues to help folks understand the relationship between paths and layouts, in specific in relationship to this new feature in core. https://github.com/backdrop/backdrop-issues/issues/1929
Specifically, I opened this issue: https://github.com/backdrop/backdrop-issues/issues/6699
It has been pointed out that my use of "visibility conditions" in the text, might be better expressed as "access conditions" in relationship to paths. Which brings me to this inconsistency in the current UI (or at least what appears to be an inconsistency).
Questions:
Is there a good reason for this inconsistency between the use of visibility and access on this specific page? Can we fix this on this page alone or does this have much broader implications?
It is my current thought, that "visibility conditions" does make sense for blocks, but for paths the word "access conditions" is more accurate. I'm worried that this might make the site architect experience more confusing. BUT, it may also help a site architect better understand what is going on here.
As I begin to think about it this way, I think it's helping my understanding.
Expected behavior
Would it be better if this page looks like this (changing link from "Add visibility condition" to "Add access condition")? Does this have ramifications for other parts of the UI?
AND if so, should this be change from "Visibility Conditions" to "Visibility or Access Conditions"?
OR is this even worth worrying about?
Atten: @jenlampton, @quicksketch, @bugfolder