Send notifications to Samsung TVs

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I've seen you added some UPnP classes here:

http://code.google.com/p/android-notifier/source/browse/trunk/MultiDroidNotifier
/src/main/java/com/google/code/notifier/desktop/notification/upnp/UpnpNotificati
onReceiver.java?r=289

You can do the same with my up-to-date UPnP library:

http://www.teleal.org/projects/cling/

http://teleal.org/projects/cling/workbench/xref/org/teleal/cling/workbench/plugi
ns/igd/package-summary.html

Additionally, it supports sending notification messages to networked Samsung 
TVs. I'd be great if I could get my phone events or even SMS on my TV:

http://teleal.org/weblog/Cling%20is%20now%20beta.html

http://teleal.org/projects/cling/workbench/xref/org/teleal/cling/workbench/plugi
ns/messagebox/package-summary.html

Original issue reported on code.google.com by christia...@gmail.com on 14 Oct 2010 at 10:14

• Merged into: #33

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I took a look at your project when I was searching for upnp libraries, but I 
couldn't find a quick example of how to do port forwarding and upnplib had a 
"NAT mappings" link right in its Documentation page. So I chose upnplib.

Since I don't have one of these samsung TVs, I wouldn't be able to test the 
code to support it, so it would be great if you could provide a patch with an 
implementation of this feature. You can write a new NotificationReceiver like 
UpnpNotificationReceiver. We can use your library instead of upnplib if it has 
the same level of support that upnplib has for port forwarding.

Original comment by lehph...@gmail.com on 14 Oct 2010 at 1:48

• Added labels: Component-Communication, OpSys-Desktop, Priority-Medium

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Please don't do this, specially not on the desktop client.
Me and someone else are already working on it as a separate app.

Original comment by rdamazio@gmail.com on 14 Oct 2010 at 6:03

• Changed state: Duplicate

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Just to clarify:
 - IMHO new notification protocols/methods belong on the android side, they shouldn't depend on a desktop app.
- There's a queue of new methods to be implemented: GTalk, MSN, Samsung, etc. - 
some of them may be implemented separately from the app (I have a pluggable 
design in mind since some people asked me for very uncommon methods which don't 
make sense to put in the main app)
- I do have a Samsung TV with such support (Samsung PL50C7000, 50-inch 3D 
plasma which runs Linux), and I've done some initial experiments with it and 
I've found out it's *not* as trivial as it sounds - I need to try your library, 
but 99% of the other libraries I tried failed on that TV with a 403 HTTP error 
- on the other side, they used the MessageBoxService SOAP call on the TV, which 
afaik is not UPnP.
- All that said, I do want this support, so it will be done, but let's do it 
right.

Original comment by rdamazio@gmail.com on 14 Oct 2010 at 6:13

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If libraries have already been ported to android, great, if not, then it's 
faster to implement them in the desktop app, have people try them and if 
everything works as expected, port to the android app.

I don't think it's better to have everything in the android app, some things 
like support for Samsung TVs would make more sense in the desktop since the TV 
will probably be in the home network only, other things like XMPP could make 
more sense in the android app because it would work everywhere but more 
features in the android app will make it harder for users to find what really 
matters which is notification configuration only.

Original comment by lehph...@gmail.com on 14 Oct 2010 at 6:49

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Leandro, IMHO we shouldn't do what's faster - we should do what's better, 
specially in cases where it means having duplicate work. Also, "porting to 
android" is something very vague - any java-only code can be directly used in 
Android (you may need to include a few additional dependencies, but it works).

About the TV specifically - I don't think having an additional relay hop makes 
sense, it's an additional potential point of failure, plus it requires you to 
keep a computer on.
About usability - that's why I'm proposing having that functionality outside 
the main app.

Btw, I posted a document outlining what I believe should be the general 
responsibility distribution:
http://code.google.com/p/android-notifier/wiki/MasterPlan

Perhaps we should continue this discussion on the google group?

Original comment by rdamazio@gmail.com on 14 Oct 2010 at 7:05

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Unfortunately, Android does not support everything in JavaSE, so we'll have to 
port almost every library we decide to use for MSN, XMPP, UPNP etc. I think we 
should do what is faster because libraries I've found for MSN and XMPP are far 
from reliable and have varying degrees of compatibility, it would very 
frustrating to port them to android to discover a large part of the users won't 
be able to use the new features. Besides, many users don't have wifi available 
and are using bluetooth or would like to use usb to get notifications to their 
PC which may have a wired connection to the internet or a network router 
allowing other forms of notification propagation.

I'm curious about having functionality outside the main app.

Original comment by lehph...@gmail.com on 14 Oct 2010 at 7:19

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New release of Cling, now with manual chapters for NAT port mapping and Samsung 
TV messaging:

http://www.teleal.org/projects/cling/support/manual/cling-support-manual.html
http://www.teleal.org/projects/cling/core/manual/cling-core-manual.html

All of this works on Android or regular JVM.

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