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Icon Sidebar: Change "Timeline" icon with clock-like icon (see image in ticket) #24

Closed star-buck closed 6 years ago

star-buck commented 6 years ago

Use this icon for Timeline: snap 2018-02-09 at 14 36 01

Elv13 commented 6 years ago

Are you sure? Most timeline icons look more like the current one.

This was/is the history icon. The history is (as you requested) disabled by default and can be enabled back somewhere in the config. However I put zero time (since you rightfully pointed out isn't really useful when you have the timeline) on it so it isn't really useful right now. Maybe ask Uri his opinion?

I made that icon in 25 seconds in Inkscape as a placeholder for a (future) better one.

star-buck commented 6 years ago

History and Timeline should be the same, hence lets switch icons.

Elv13 commented 6 years ago

(not arguing about this icon, just discussing the issue generally given it was studied in depth)

History and Timeline should be the same

Yes, sometime. The reality is a bit more subtle. It really depends on the device and use case. They both are lenses on top of the same data, but one is person based and the other event based. Both answers different interrogations the user might want to be answered.

What is the timeline view good at:

What event based history is good at:

The fact is that the timeline cannot provide those answers and clicking on every contacts to reverse engineer the answer to those question is time consuming and require Excel. In the same way, the history doesn't provide the answer the timeline does.

Google/Android, Samsung and Apple keep the event based view because of the issue highlighted above while most chat apps use the timeline as currently designed.

This is why the default timeline and the history are not always the same. The timeline, as currently implemented, is designed to be compact and maximize the odds of the person you want to contact is currently visible. The history groups the individual contact points in events but otherwise doesn't deduplicate any further to keep the fidelity to what really happened.

The current timeline is a better default, but does not replace the need for the history to exist.

star-buck commented 6 years ago

Okay, lets keep the logo, but reorder the icons in sidebar.