MVS Mode game sound issues

[OBurgerGuy]

.42 has is missing sound in parts of these games in mvs mode: nam1975 bstars bstarsh Possibly other clones of same games as well.

[OBurgerGuy]

sound works fine in aes mode

[barbudreadmon]

Could you be a little more precise ? I tried those games and didn't notice anything.

[OBurgerGuy]

run them in retropie under usa bios or latest unibios and theres no sound in nam 1975 durning Muckly text or in game, baseball starts no sound at all and fighters history dynamite no sound in selection screen or in game works fine with lr-fba2012 tho just not in current .42

[barbudreadmon]

Next time, don't say "mvs mode", making false report doesn't help with tracking an issue...

The issue with sound only happens if you select a mvs usa bios (which is not the default mvs bios) or if you select usa+arcade in unibios (which is not the default setting for unibios).

I'll check if it happens with standalone version, if it does i'll report the bug upstream.

And please don't say "run them in retropie", i don't have retropie, you don't need retropie to run this core. Saying it that way makes your issue sounds like a retropie specific one.

[OBurgerGuy]

my apologies, i dont know your etiquette, and you did say "Could you be a little more precise?, I tried those games and didn't notice anything." next time you shoule be more specific in your request...

also i used the terminologies i am familiar with as i do not know your "INDUSTRY" terms so from my point of view "mvs mode" is a thing and as for "default bios settings" again you didn't specify anything, as for retropie... this is the git for lr-fba which is most popularly used in a retropie environment, i did assume that the developers would have access to and use the most used platform for their software to develop and test for it, and running on retropie was just how i did it and got these results, as i did not know if it was retropie or core specific, maybe try not to sound and/or be so elitist about your reply when someone actually finds a problem and takes their time to report it to help the community.

thank you for your attention to this matter.

[barbudreadmon]

So what ? Do you think i have plenty of time to search for the real issue when someone reports the wrong issue ? Are you telling me you didn't notice the sound worked fine on mvs mode before you changed country to usa twice (with mvs and with unibios) ? Pointing that out is elitist ?

I don't know what's the most popular environment using this core, there are quite a few retrogaming distro for raspberry, recalbox being probably as popular as retropie, and there are tons of other devices able to run this. Thinking i should own a retropie setup because you think it's the most used platform is quite messed up. So if suddenly this core becomes really popular with ios users (perhaps they are already the largest community using this core, i don't know), i should buy an iphone X ?

Thanks for the report, just be more thorough with what you did the next time, so i won't search in the wrong direction.

[barbudreadmon]

Also, the fix seems to include disabling a speedhack in the neogeo code. I'll probably work on some dipswitch to enable/disable this speedhack when i have some time, until then don't use usa bioses.

[OBurgerGuy]

no i don't assume you have time for frivolities, but i do assume you take this project seriously and want people to report bugs, otherwise you are doing all the debugging all your self, like the days before places like this... circa 1997! and no i never noticed the sound working, BECAUSE IT DIDN'T, it happens just like i said, would you like an effing video? i only changed it to usa region when it didnt work under default region, NO your attitude and assumptions i was describing as elitest i.e. "Next time, don't say "mvs mode", making false report doesn't help with tracking an issue..." and just to let you know it didn't work for me under any bios region, stock or unibios, except forcing aes, no sound still. and i never posted a fake issue, this is a real issue, i didnt post here until i tried EVERYTHING, EVERY combination of bioses, regions and such, because i needed a fix NOW, the last thing i wanted to do is get into a pissing match with a mod or coder and wait with my hand on may ass for a fix and release, so don't assume i didn't try everything before posting and only when i was absolutely out of answers, i figured this is the place to go, you go to the guys who make it, you are really angry, its not my fault, on top of which i'm not some chump just starting out in emulation, and I PAID for my unibios files from Razoola, i do not use the free version, and in case you ask yes, the paid and free unibios has the same issue, the only way the mentioned roms run fine is under 2012 version. and what the hell does an iphone x have to do with anything, if you are making a popularity comparison i would say android devices are the most popular by sheer sales numbers, but only because they are usually cheaper and poor morons buy them every six months... ::cough:: samsung.

again thank you for your attention in this matter and in the future please try to be more respectful of others as you do not know me and have no right treating me with the disrespectful attitude that you have been portraying, as i have not done this to you.

[barbudreadmon]

Ok, this is starting to make sense now, so basically you are saying you messed with your neogeo.zip to include your bios, could you post the file list with md5/crc in your neogeo.zip ?

The only possible reason you would have an issue with "any" mvs bios would be that asia-s3.rom, sp-s2.sp1 and sp-s.sp1 are missing from your neogeo.zip. If you think i was rude before (you report an issue that doesn't exist because there is no issue with any mvs bios besides the usa ones, and you insist, that kinda annoys me), prepare yourself if you posted an issue because of incomplete romset.

[OBurgerGuy]

[OBurgerGuy]

Video of problem: https://ufile.io/3vaxv

[barbudreadmon]

For the remainder, this is what is written in the "homepage" of this repository :

Use clrmamepro (which run fine on linux with wine and macos with crossover) to build valid romsets with dats from the dats directory. fba dats are NOT mame dats. Don't report issues if you didn't build a valid romset.

So, half of the normal content of neogeo.zip for fba is missing in your screenshot, which means you didn't respect that rule. How about following rules and completing your neogeo.zip file ?

Second thing, how am i supposed to confirm your unibios is not configured with usa country (which, as i have been saying since my second post, is what trigger your issue, so you shouldn't do that) with your video ?

[OBurgerGuy]

ok, i dont understand, as these THREE games ran fine before in fba2012, before you guys changed over and started a new version/branch? and with the bios zip i showed you, and they still do... Razoola worked with you to get crc checking off roms or bios or whatever for this new version, and the other thing is what files am i missing? is there a list of required files to be included in neogeo.zip? give me a file list for the bios zip, i will complete it and continue investigating this issue. also the country setting has no bearing in retroarch settings, i still get no sound... have tried all country settings.... this was the first thing i did. try everything at a stock level, no unibios and such.

[OBurgerGuy]

also the romset is valid and i dont use mame romsets on fba, like i said not new to this...

[OBurgerGuy]

rebuit bios with clrmamepro and YOUR .42 fba dat still need list of files may be missing some

[OBurgerGuy]

rebuilding romset and bios.... we shall see... we arent done yet boss

[OBurgerGuy]

also i am asking a personal favor of you to include a "FB Alpha v0.2.97.42 (ClrMame Pro XML, Neo-Geo only).dat.zip" thanks :)

[OBurgerGuy]

a "FB Alpha v0.2.97.42 (ClrMame Pro XML, Arcade only).dat.zip" would be awesome too!

[barbudreadmon]

So, do you intend to show me a video showing you are not running this with usa country set when you get this issue ? That's the only thing of interest to me : do you really have a sound issue when not using usa country. As i said, it is unrelated to mvs.

[OBurgerGuy]

[OBurgerGuy]

what settings do you wish to see as a control in video?

[OBurgerGuy]

are all my files accounted for in bios zip?

[barbudreadmon]

The unibios splashscreen when you launch a game show mode/country, i don't know why or how you hide it in your video.

[OBurgerGuy]

its not needed to see, looks unprofessional

[OBurgerGuy]

give me a few, will record and upload

[OBurgerGuy]

here ya go https://ufile.io/9cy0v

[barbudreadmon]

Ok, it seems real, and i'm unable to reproduce it, at this point i'm starting to think this is an issue between current fba and your custom unibios. Could you try with the default mvs bios which is "MVS Asia/Europe ver.6 (1 slot)" and tell me if you have sound ?

[OBurgerGuy]

funny thing is the custom unibios was left out, that was actually a pure rebuilt neogeo.zip with the free 3.2 and not my purchased custom 3.3 renamed to 3.2

[OBurgerGuy]

dude, do a lot of newbs just whine on here, you ha me prove every fucking thing but my grandmothers maiden name, you have become jaded, are these issues that annoying? people post false shit that theyre too lazy to look up? i mean ive had this issue for months, and have been researching it with no answer, finally i decided to float a ticket.

[OBurgerGuy]

you know i WAS going to give you the default in that video, but im like nahhh he wont want that

[OBurgerGuy]

ill record and post

[OBurgerGuy]

https://ufile.io/arwc1

[OBurgerGuy]

am i missing any files in the bios zip?

[thomasgoldstein]

OBurgerGuy, I can understand you're annoyed by barbudreadmon's attitude and all, but please don't rant or spam, and keep it straight to the point. For what it's worth, I decided to follow this repo and receive a mail whenever a new reply gets posted, I do not think there is any reason to post up to 6 comments in a row. This is very childish and makes the bug harder to follow. This isn't a chat. Thank you.

[barbudreadmon]

Yes, a lot of newbs whined here, especially those who didn't have a valid romset, that's why i added the warning about romsets on the "homepage".

No, your bios file seems fine now.

That's really weird, the mvs asia/europe bios (which is the default if you don't mess with core options) is what most people use (i never use anything else myself), yet you are the first one to report such issue, and i'm unable to reproduce it with the same settings in core options and/or unibios, except if i set country to usa.

Did you expect me to have no doubts about your issue happening whatever the mvs bios in those conditions ? While you gave me no information about your setup ? And after you mentioned "usa bios" in your third post (which led me to find the issue with usa country, thanks for that) ? There are a lot of things you should have mentioned/done since the first post, checking your romset and mentioning you use a custom unibios are two of them, now let's complete the remaining ones :

• What's your arch ? raspberry ? x86 ? x86_64 ?
• Could you post your retroarch.cfg and any override that could be included when launching this game ? Or at least tell me if rewind is enabled, and what's your audio setting.

[barbudreadmon]

I'm also interested in your retroarch version since i want to reproduce the exact same conditions.

[OBurgerGuy]

Can reply only, weather caused outage of internet, cannot send cfg currently, using cellular

[OBurgerGuy]

Ok Setup: raspberry pi 3 and retropie 4.3, only using lr-fba and select neogeo roms, the setup is included in a restored data east converted cabinet, not that that matters here. No rewind set, audio is default internally, setup in raspi-config to output to hdmi, this was a fresh 4.3 install not an upgrade from 4.2, I have 2 other setups a self contained arcade stick and a nes pi case, both raspberry pi 3 that I can try to see if they have this issue as well.

[OBurgerGuy]

I have never posted a problem on a git or thread like this so I am not familiar with the process or etiquette you’ll have to excuse my behavior as I am used to more of a forum-like format. So that’s why you didn’t get a normal format of information and cause and effect.

[dankcushions]

You're still doing multiple comments. Every time you make a comment, 23 people get emailed. Please collect your thoughts into one comment.

Anyway. Retropie 4.3 won't use latest lr-fbalpha master or latest retroarch master, if that matters. You'd need to update lr-fblapha via source, but retroarch will be locked to the latest stable release at the time Retropie 4.3 was built.

[barbudreadmon]

Do you have a neogeo.zip file in your system folder ? If so, could you try copying the one in the fba roms folder to the system folder (and test if sound is still not working with non-usa bios) ? Someone pushed a commit 3 months ago to add system folder as a possible location for neogeo.zip, and i'm wondering if the neogeo.zip in system folder is not taking priority over the one in the roms folder.

[barbudreadmon]

Also, what's the gcc version in use for building this core in retropie ?

[barbudreadmon]

I removed the speedhack in neogeo driver, this speedhack seems to be known as a problem child, it fixed my issue with usa bios, let me know if it fixes your issue with mvs/unibios.

[OBurgerGuy]

Wait, so you removed the 100-200% overclock of the emulated cpu?

[barbudreadmon]

No, that's unrelated to the overclocking.

[OBurgerGuy]

Gcc version (Raspbian 4.9.2-10) 4.9.2

[OBurgerGuy]

Where am I to place bios? System folder? Please list exact directory

[barbudreadmon]

I don't know where is the system folder in retropie, if you don't know either i suppose you didn't put anything in it. So let's just try my last commit and tell me if it fixes your issue, which is likely since i had exactly the same sound issue limited to usa bios. Nevermind my other questions, that's just me being curious about why you got this issue with any mvs bios.

[OBurgerGuy]

yup, seems fixed nam1975 and baseball stars pro sound is fine unibios usa region

is the speed hack needed or was it an option that didnt effect much? it doesnt seem like my performance is hampered on even SVC or any larger meg games.

thanks

[OBurgerGuy]

on a side note may have broken roms now... looking into all 150 to see what plays and doesnt.