Zigbee Congestion - Spread Change Over Time

[thk-socal]

I have a large Zigbee network and I am utilizing ZHA on Home Assistant. I have a lot of lights and many groups. Adaptive Lighting has been fabulous, but there are some cases where I have 15 Zigbee groups that need to change with the same light adaptation settings. To accomplish this I have created multiple adaptive light settings that are just duplicates of each other and then limit the amount of light groups in those settings and have them have different adjustment times.

So I have two propositions for helping reduce congestion of Zigbee broadcasts:

1. Allow for an option calld "spread_change" which takes the lights/groups for the light changes and spreads that change across the list. Now of course you will want certain lights to always be in sync so perhaps a format like:

   spread_change: evenly (or randomly)
   al_change_groups:
   group1:
   light.zigbee_group_masterbedroom_sconces
   light.zigbee_group_masterbedroom_lights
   group2:
   light.zigbee_group_kitchen_main
   light.zigbee_group_kitchen_window
   group3:
   light.zigbee_group_family_room_sconces
   light.zigbee_group_family_room_lights

2. In the situation that there are multiple groups of lights, and you want to avoid network overload with changes allow for an offset for each light in the AL settings. So if there is an offset setting, then the system adds the offset to the change window. So below the Master Bedroom always changes at 300 second interval and the Kitchen always changes 10 seconds after the Master Bedroom etc...

interval: 300
lights:
  light.zigbee_group_masterbedroom_sconces:
    offset: 0
  light.zigbee_group_masterbedroom_lights:
    offset: 0
  light.zigbee_group_kitchen_main
    offset: 10
  light_zigbee_group_kitchen_window
    offset: 10

[basnijholt]

This is a great suggestion. I think we do not even need to make this configurable but just add a random offset to each Adaptive Lighting switch.

[basnijholt]

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[thk-socal]

This is a great suggestion. I think we do not even need to make this configurable but just add a random offset to each Adaptive Lighting switch.

While I see why you would think that it should not be configurable, I would argue that in some cases the transition time will be short enough that a random offset would be noticeable if you have multiple groups to dim in the same room. How about it is random unless you include something that groups the lights? That was for specific scenarios the option is there to keep groups in sync if you have a short transition.

Also, congrats on the twins! Hope you and the family are well and enjoying this very special time!

[thk-socal]

As I have been working with this in Node-RED, while waiting for an adjustment, I have found the best option is to have a queue that allows 1 message every 1.5 seconds. The queue can build up and continue to function as the messages are sent and the queue empties. So I would love the option to have an "Messages Allowed" and "Message Time Window" setting.

"Messages Alowed": 1 "Message Time Window": 1.5 seconds

That would stop overloads on the Zigbee networks for me as I can send 8 group broadcasts per 10 second window.

[itssimon]

I'm having the exact same problem and am intrigued about the Node-RED queue you mentioned @thk-socal. Would you mind sharing more details about it?

Globally limiting the rate at which AL adapts lights across all switches sounds like the right solution to me, e.g. at most one adjustment every 2 seconds.

Random intervals/delays may improve things, but can still lead to overloading the network occasionally.