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Prelude is an enhanced Emacs 25.1+ distribution that should make your experience with Emacs both more pleasant and more powerful.
https://prelude.emacsredux.com
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Should not have a scroll-bar #463

Closed ToBeReplaced closed 10 years ago

ToBeReplaced commented 10 years ago

We should default to: (set-scroll-bar-mode nil)

In the same way that we do not encourage users to use up-down-left-right, we should encourage users to scroll using C-v and M-v or the equivalents in evil-mode.

bbatsov commented 10 years ago

I'd normally agree, but there's something else to consider here - the scroll-bar gives a good visual hint about where you are in a buffer (much better than a percentage in the modeline I think). I never use it to actually scroll, but I frequently look at it.

AlexBaranosky commented 10 years ago

My 2 cents, but I hate losing any space that the scrollbar might take up.

On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 1:42 AM, Bozhidar Batsov notifications@github.comwrote:

I'd normally agree, but there's something else to consider here - the scroll-bar gives a good visual hint about where you are in a buffer (much better than a percentage in the modeline I think). I never use it to actually scroll, but I frequently look at it.

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bronislav commented 10 years ago

I never used scrollbar as indicator where I ma in buffer. I have disabled it along with menu and toolbar and never thought that this ui element could be used for something else :smile:

hijarian commented 10 years ago

Scrollbar is a visual indicator of where you're in a buffer, and it's better than percentage, period.

The issue is solved by a single line in the personal config, and if you know that scrollbar can be disabled at all, then you know the corresponding command as well, so disabling is not an issue to you. 1 character width lost by scrollbar is not an issue to anyone.

I personally don't understand the point in crippling UX just for the sake of minimalism. It's essentially the same that the visual taskbar is better than C-t w in Ratpoison, even if it takes a 2-character row from your screen.

bbatsov commented 10 years ago

I support @hijarian's view on the subject, so I'll keep the scrollbar by default. After all it's trivial to disable it in your personal configs.