jordanpapaleo
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8 years ago - What would they be able to comprehend?
- Look into some kid programming topics
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jordanpapaleo
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8 years ago 
jack96161
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8 years ago I'll take this to the KidZone board - most of our programs are pre-school, but we've already had sessions with "squishy circuits" - conductive play-dough, batteries, light bulbs, buzzers, etc. We're also talking about after-school and weekend sessions for older kids. Somebody in Truckee was recently asking for tutors to talk about programming for home-schooled kids and there are several schools that would be happy to advertise events. Lots of possible venues. I'd like to see some outreach to places like the Boys & Girls club in King's Beach, the Family center in Truckee - low income kids who have less opportunities for things like this...
On 8/18/2016 4:52 PM, Jordan Papaleo wrote:
- What would they be able to comprehend?
- Look into some kid programming topics
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jordanpapaleo
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8 years ago Cool. I have thought about that a lot. And the thing I do not know how to figure out is hardware. How do we get these kids computers to use while learning and then how do they keep up on their skills. I need a building and a computer lab.
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I'll take this to the KidZone board - most of our programs are pre-school, but we've already had sessions with "squishy circuits" - conductive play-dough, batteries, light bulbs, buzzers, etc. We're also talking about after-school and weekend sessions for older kids. Somebody in Truckee was recently asking for tutors to talk about programming for home-schooled kids and there are several schools that would be happy to advertise events. Lots of possible venues. I'd like to see some outreach to places like the Boys & Girls club in King's Beach, the Family center in Truckee - low income kids who have less opportunities for things like this...
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jack96161
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8 years ago Suggestion: for the hardware, let's come up with a list and approach the airport for support. For a venue, the Kid Zone has a small crafts room thats available but not good for more than maybe 6-8 kids at most. The old rec center downtown has rooms used for things like this, and if it's not anything messy, the airport terminal building meeting rooms can be scheduled. The school district has allowed several after school 'enrichment' programs to use their facilities. In short, I think the venue is a doable - what we need is a program, what it would accomplish, and what bits and pieces would be required. These days, the school district distributes a ton of Chrome books for school work. If they have a browser, we can supply a website, right?
Need to research programming languages and tools for teaching beginning (/really /beginning) programming. Many years ago, I taught a class of 4-5th graders about how a computer works. One kid was the cpu, who sat at a desk and got numbers to add and subtract with pencil and paper - one kid at the blackboard was the memory who put numbers in numbered (addressed) or labelled (named) boxes - another was the input device who took cards from a stack of cards (the 'program') with numbers or instructions to give to the cpu - and two kids were the wires who ran numbers to and fro. Finally, there was a 'printer' who posted the answers for the teacher. I think there was an instruction set of maybe 6-8 things for the cpu to do. I'm a push down stack architecture kid of guy, but you could (ugh!) use a brain dead fixed register model like IBM inflicted on us. Great way to teach the basic concept of name vs. value years before it confuses them in beginning algebra. I'm convinced the teacher learned more than the kids. Today, there must be a number of very basic languages for programming simple robots, games, you name it. Or... we all know how to write an interpretive compiler or two, right?
Climb out of the box and think about it!
Jack
On 8/18/2016 6:51 PM, Jordan Papaleo wrote:
Cool. I have thought about that a lot. And the thing I do not know how to figure out is hardware. How do we get these kids computers to use while learning and then how do they keep up on their skills. I need a building and a computer lab.
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I'll take this to the KidZone board - most of our programs are pre-school, but we've already had sessions with "squishy circuits" - conductive play-dough, batteries, light bulbs, buzzers, etc. We're also talking about after-school and weekend sessions for older kids. Somebody in Truckee was recently asking for tutors to talk about programming for home-schooled kids and there are several schools that would be happy to advertise events. Lots of possible venues. I'd like to see some outreach to places like the Boys & Girls club in King's Beach, the Family center in Truckee - low income kids who have less opportunities for things like this...
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- Look into some kid programming topics
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sjtaillon
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8 years ago You guys probably already know about it, but I love, love, love the code.org programming activities. The first one uses only graph paper, and then they get progressively more interesting. They make learning programming concepts like loops fun with games.
I'd be interested in helping with this project. My hands-on coding skillz are pretty dated at this point, but I'm pretty decent working with kids and explaining technical concepts in an easy-to-follow way. I may have some time on Fridays starting in Sept. Let me know if I can help somehow. What a great cause!!
Best, Sara.
On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 11:26 PM, jack96161 notifications@github.com wrote:
Suggestion: for the hardware, let's come up with a list and approach the airport for support. For a venue, the Kid Zone has a small crafts room thats available but not good for more than maybe 6-8 kids at most. The old rec center downtown has rooms used for things like this, and if it's not anything messy, the airport terminal building meeting rooms can be scheduled. The school district has allowed several after school 'enrichment' programs to use their facilities. In short, I think the venue is a doable - what we need is a program, what it would accomplish, and what bits and pieces would be required. These days, the school district distributes a ton of Chrome books for school work. If they have a browser, we can supply a website, right?
Need to research programming languages and tools for teaching beginning (/really /beginning) programming. Many years ago, I taught a class of 4-5th graders about how a computer works. One kid was the cpu, who sat at a desk and got numbers to add and subtract with pencil and paper - one kid at the blackboard was the memory who put numbers in numbered (addressed) or labelled (named) boxes - another was the input device who took cards from a stack of cards (the 'program') with numbers or instructions to give to the cpu - and two kids were the wires who ran numbers to and fro. Finally, there was a 'printer' who posted the answers for the teacher. I think there was an instruction set of maybe 6-8 things for the cpu to do. I'm a push down stack architecture kid of guy, but you could (ugh!) use a brain dead fixed register model like IBM inflicted on us. Great way to teach the basic concept of name vs. value years before it confuses them in beginning algebra. I'm convinced the teacher learned more than the kids. Today, there must be a number of very basic languages for programming simple robots, games, you name it. Or... we all know how to write an interpretive compiler or two, right?
Climb out of the box and think about it!
Jack
On 8/18/2016 6:51 PM, Jordan Papaleo wrote:
Cool. I have thought about that a lot. And the thing I do not know how to figure out is hardware. How do we get these kids computers to use while learning and then how do they keep up on their skills. I need a building and a computer lab.
Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 18, 2016, at 5:22 PM, jack96161 notifications@github.com wrote:
I'll take this to the KidZone board - most of our programs are pre-school, but we've already had sessions with "squishy circuits" - conductive play-dough, batteries, light bulbs, buzzers, etc. We're also talking about after-school and weekend sessions for older kids. Somebody in Truckee was recently asking for tutors to talk about programming for home-schooled kids and there are several schools that would be happy to advertise events. Lots of possible venues. I'd like to see some outreach to places like the Boys & Girls club in King's Beach, the Family center in Truckee - low income kids who have less opportunities for things like this...
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- Look into some kid programming topics
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jack96161
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8 years ago Sara - code.org is super! I hadn't heard of it, but you started me off on a search for intro to programming for kids - there's a ton of work being done in this area. Reached out to some friends and former co-workers and found https://scratch.mit.edu/about/ from the MIT Lab, http://www.alice.org/index.php, fun stuff and ideas on http://lifehacker.com/how-and-why-to-teach-your-kids-to-code-510588878 , on and on... Google labs has some projects for this as well.
There are no end of opportunities for people with computer skills to teach some fun classes, mentor science projects, work with the local school district STEAM programs, etc. The BeerJS folks are massively overqualified for this, but I suspect could come up with more than one way to improve on these tools and programs using the newer technologies that have been kicked around in these earlier meetings.
I'm most interested in how we can harness the current shot-gun approach to suggestions and ideas for an interesting expansion of the original BeerJS idea (there /was /one, wasn't there?) beyond Javascript and JS based platforms and tools. Aiding and abetting kids to try programming and creativity is one definable area, can someone outline a handful of others to examine more closely?
On 8/19/2016 11:41 AM, Sara Taillon wrote:
You guys probably already know about it, but I love, love, love the code.org programming activities. The first one uses only graph paper, and then they get progressively more interesting. They make learning programming concepts like loops fun with games.
I'd be interested in helping with this project. My hands-on coding skillz are pretty dated at this point, but I'm pretty decent working with kids and explaining technical concepts in an easy-to-follow way. I may have some time on Fridays starting in Sept. Let me know if I can help somehow. What a great cause!!
Best, Sara.
On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 11:26 PM, jack96161 notifications@github.com wrote:
Suggestion: for the hardware, let's come up with a list and approach the airport for support. For a venue, the Kid Zone has a small crafts room thats available but not good for more than maybe 6-8 kids at most. The old rec center downtown has rooms used for things like this, and if it's not anything messy, the airport terminal building meeting rooms can be scheduled. The school district has allowed several after school 'enrichment' programs to use their facilities. In short, I think the venue is a doable - what we need is a program, what it would accomplish, and what bits and pieces would be required. These days, the school district distributes a ton of Chrome books for school work. If they have a browser, we can supply a website, right?
Need to research programming languages and tools for teaching beginning (/really /beginning) programming. Many years ago, I taught a class of 4-5th graders about how a computer works. One kid was the cpu, who sat at a desk and got numbers to add and subtract with pencil and paper - one kid at the blackboard was the memory who put numbers in numbered (addressed) or labelled (named) boxes - another was the input device who took cards from a stack of cards (the 'program') with numbers or instructions to give to the cpu - and two kids were the wires who ran numbers to and fro. Finally, there was a 'printer' who posted the answers for the teacher. I think there was an instruction set of maybe 6-8 things for the cpu to do. I'm a push down stack architecture kid of guy, but you could (ugh!) use a brain dead fixed register model like IBM inflicted on us. Great way to teach the basic concept of name vs. value years before it confuses them in beginning algebra. I'm convinced the teacher learned more than the kids. Today, there must be a number of very basic languages for programming simple robots, games, you name it. Or... we all know how to write an interpretive compiler or two, right?
Climb out of the box and think about it!
Jack
On 8/18/2016 6:51 PM, Jordan Papaleo wrote:
Cool. I have thought about that a lot. And the thing I do not know how to figure out is hardware. How do we get these kids computers to use while learning and then how do they keep up on their skills. I need a building and a computer lab.
Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 18, 2016, at 5:22 PM, jack96161 notifications@github.com wrote:
I'll take this to the KidZone board - most of our programs are pre-school, but we've already had sessions with "squishy circuits" - conductive play-dough, batteries, light bulbs, buzzers, etc. We're also talking about after-school and weekend sessions for older kids. Somebody in Truckee was recently asking for tutors to talk about programming for home-schooled kids and there are several schools that would be happy to advertise events. Lots of possible venues. I'd like to see some outreach to places like the Boys & Girls club in King's Beach, the Family center in Truckee - low income kids who have less opportunities for things like this...
On 8/18/2016 4:52 PM, Jordan Papaleo wrote:
- What would they be able to comprehend?
- Look into some kid programming topics
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jordanpapaleo
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8 years ago Sara! hi!
@all Lets use the tahoe channel in beerjs slack for our general conversation so we can have better interactions. We can then record results in the issues :)