belluzj / fantasque-sans

A font family with a great monospaced variant for programmers.
http://openfontlibrary.org/en/font/fantasque-sans-mono
SIL Open Font License 1.1
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Thoughts on Recent Changes #30

Closed orochi235 closed 8 years ago

orochi235 commented 10 years ago

I absolutely love this font, and I use it in every IDE I work with. I just recently discovered that it was no longer called Cosmic Sans Neue, and thus that there were new versions available.

I was initially excited to see what had changed, but I think I like some aspects of the older versions better. The new italic variant is too oblique: it's hard to read, and the corners of some italic glyphs overlap with the characters next to them. (This is particularly egregious with brackets and parentheses.) The old italics were already pretty easily distinguishable.

The new quotation marks are also a bit confusing. In a vacuum, I think they'd be pretty cool. But unfortunately, a lot of text editors and IM clients have taken to substituting standard ASCII quotes with specialized left and right versions. Which, of course, don't compile if they find their way into source code. The old ones might be bland, but they're much less scary. :)

I hope this is the right place to submit this sort of feedback; I couldn't find any other outlet for it. And either way, I have the old version of the font, so I'm good. Just wanted to do what little I could to contribute to a great project.

belluzj commented 10 years ago

About the "new italics", the easiest solution to get rid of them is to not install them. Indeed, what you call "old italics" were simply generated by your OS from the straight font at the time in which I did not ship any italics. As for the quotes, I think that one day I am going to introduce "stylistic sets" that can be used to selectively replace some characters that don't get everyone's approval, such as quotes or the lowercase i.

Many thanks for you feedback and encouragements :) They are very welcome.

belluzj commented 10 years ago

In the latest release, I moved all italic glyphs so that they better interact with surrounding straight glyphs. This may solve your overlap problem. I keep the straight quotes for another time :)

orochi235 commented 10 years ago

Awesome. I’ll grab the new version tomorrow morning and let you know how it looks. :D

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In the latest release, I moved all italic glyphs so that they better interact with surrounding straight glyphs. This may solve your overlap problem. I keep the straight quotes for another time :)

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Zhichao-Hong commented 10 years ago

The new italic works much better on most of the editors. However, it is still too oblique in Intellij on OSX. I think the problem is related how Apple Java (1.6) is rendering font on OSX. As far as I can tell there is no easy solution to this.

ryanzabcik commented 10 years ago

I'd like to second the comment on the quotes. They should be straight like other modern fonts. There are already unicode characters for curved quotes, namely U+2018 ‘ and U+2019 ’.