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berkon / wireless-microphone-analyzer

Scans the spectrum for free/congested wireless microphone channels ("RF Explorer" or "TinySA" hardware is required!)
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Contribute country/vendor specific frequency information here #2

Open berkon opened 5 years ago

berkon commented 5 years ago

This issue will be kept open forever. It is thought for all of you who can/want to contribute all sort of frequency related information. You don't need any programming skills at all. Just let me know what YOU know about specific regulations in your country or yet unknown vendors. In regards to the Wireless Microphone Analyzer this especially means:

nerdymedic commented 5 years ago

wireless_models.xlsx

tapakj commented 4 years ago

Added Audix Performance R41/R42 and R61/R62 series to excel. wireless_models.xlsx Please, could be possible to add them? Thank you in advance.

berkon commented 4 years ago

@tapakj, I've just released version V1.6.1 which contains the new frequency ranges. Have fun. :-)

petejonessound commented 3 years ago

Hi, love this software. It's a great way to connect to the rf explorer with just the features we need as audio people. My one suggestion would be to be able to set a more detailed rbw (ie more scann points). Please find info on the Australian RF situation attached. Australia Wireless Mics.xlsx

berkon commented 3 years ago

Hi, love this software. It's a great way to connect to the rf explorer with just the features we need as audio people. My one suggestion would be to be able to set a more detailed rbw (ie more scann points). Please find info on the Australian RF situation attached. Australia Wireless Mics.xlsx

@petejonessound, thanks for your contribution. I'll add the data asap. Unfortunately the number of scan points is limited by the hardware to 112 point for the handheld devices and to 224 points on the RackPro. Thus I can only show what the hardware is willing to give me. ;-)

petejonessound commented 3 years ago

Hi Bernd

I think you can now change the number of points. In the RF Explorer for windows software you can go to the "device" menu and there is an option to "define sweep points" which allows you to select up to 2048. In Touchstone you can also set the RBW directly, although I think it does this by performing multiple smaller sweeps.

I admit I have no concept of how difficult this might be to implement as I have basically no coding skills.

Thanks again, really cool that you put the time into this project.

Pete Jones

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Hi, love this software. It's a great way to connect to the rf explorer with just the features we need as audio people. My one suggestion would be to be able to set a more detailed rbw (ie more scann points). Please find info on the Australian RF situation attached. Australia Wireless Mics.xlsx https://github.com/berkon/wireless-microphone-analyzer/files/6054228/Australia.Wireless.Mics.xlsx

@petejonessound https://github.com/petejonessound, thanks for your contribution. I'll add the data asap. Unfortunately the number of scan points is limited by the hardware to 112 point for the handheld devices and to 224 points on the RackPro. Thus I can only show what the hardware is willing to give me. ;-)

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berkon commented 3 years ago

Hi Pete, nice to hear that you my tool. I used it a lot myself, for my the events where I was playing as a DJ ... before Corona. ;-) I heard that Australia is handling the crisis quite well. So you are probably allowed to have parties again.

Thanks for that hint I was not aware of that feature. But I checked and according to the release notes for version software v2.3.2101, it looks like this mode is only available for specific devices (WSUB1G PLUS and ProAudio spectrum analyzers). In my case that option in the menu is there, but grayed out. I have the WSUB3G, but not the PLUS version.

Indeed it would be an interesting idea to scan with a very small span e.g. 10 times and thus get 112 * 10 sweep points. The only problem is that at least on my device one single sweep takes a (short) time (depending on the span size). Thus multiplying that time by 10 would surely not show a graph moving in real time anymore.

By the way, do you also have a list of forbidden frequency ranges for Australia? Im asking because that is the basis for my tool. If there is no such data available for a specific country, currently it is currently not possible to switch to that country, even though TV-channel data is available. I will probably change that in future, but for now I need such data. In worst case I could take over the data from another country (does US data fit somehow?) or I can simply enter an invisible dummy range.

petejonessound commented 3 years ago

Hi Bernd

Ah Ok, I have a WSUB1G+, I didn't know some of them didn't do that. The way I usually use the RF Explorer is to do multiple continuous scans over a period, and use the peak hold trace, so a slower rate isn't a problem.

The frequencies I gave you are the ones allowed In Australia, so all other frequencies are forbidden. The broadcast TV channels are different in each state capital city, those are the ones marked in orange, but they are not forbidden as such. These are only really valid for the centre of those cities, and regional towns and outer suburbs may have a different TV situation, but the overall bands allowed are the same. There is a lot more spectrum available here than the US and Europe.

This is the official government page which describes the situation if that helps : https://www.acma.gov.au/wireless-microphones.

Yes we are still able to have some events, but only with small audiences in person. We are still doing a lot of webcasts and online events though.

On Sun, 28 Feb 2021, 10:22 am Bernd Konnerth, notifications@github.com wrote:

Hi Pete, nice to hear that you my tool. I used it a lot myself, for my the events where I was playing as a DJ ... before Corona. ;-) I heard that Australia is handling the crisis quite well. So you are probably allowed to have parties again.

Thanks for that hint I was not aware of that feature. But I checked and according to the release notes https://j3.rf-explorer.com/download/sw/win/WindowsClientReleaseNotes.pdf for version software v2.3.2101, it looks like this mode is only available for specific devices (WSUB1G PLUS and ProAudio spectrum analyzers). In my case that option in the menu is there, but grayed out. I have the WSUB3G, but not the PLUS version.

Indeed it would be an interesting idea to scan with a very small span e.g. 10 times and thus get 112 * 10 sweep points. The only problem is that at least on my device one single sweep takes a (short) time (depending on the span size). Thus multiplying that time by 10 would surely not show a graph moving in real time anymore.

By the way, do you also have a list of forbidden frequency ranges for Australia? Im asking because that is the basis for my tool. If there is no such data available for a specific country, currently it is currently not possible to switch to that country, even though TV-channel data is available. I will probably change that in future, but for now I need such data. In worst case I could take over the data from another country (does US data fit somehow?) or I can simply enter an invisible dummy range.

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berkon commented 3 years ago

Hi Pete,

that's an interesting way how you are doing the scans indeed. I'll think of how I can implement such a specific mode. Could be quite useful.

I was wondering already why in US most audio engineers are dealing with TV-channels. So it looks like its the same in Australia. As I understand such frequencies are allowed to be used if not occupied by TV in that region. No way, here in Germany. :-) Here everything that's not allowed is forbidden. ;-) I still have an older Sennheiser system which uses frequencies which meanwhile have been dedicated to LTE. So there is just about 1-2 MHz which I can use at the border of the systems frequency range without interfering with LTE. Officially that's an LTE guard range and should/must not be used for wireless mics anymore. But to be honest ... on weddings you need the mic for 5min for the father of the bride. ;-) So I'm scanning with RF-Explorer if there is an LTE carrier in range. If not, I don't bother. If yes, they have to take a cable mic. ;-)

petejonessound commented 3 years ago

Hi Bernd

Yes so in Germany the spectrum will still be shared around the TV channels, however I guess it's similar to the UK (where i am originally from), where there is only a very small band of frequencies for free use and then there are licences for other parts of the UHF spectrum which hire companies pay for, as well as site-specific licences for events which you can purchase from the regulator.

In the US I think there is free use around the TV channels, but NOT the LTE bands. They have sold off a lot of spectrum to LTE in the last few years and it is a struggle there now. Also certain people can get a special licence if they coordinate upwards of like 50 (?) channels frequently, which allows them to make other users fit into their coordination.

In Australia we are lucky enough to have plenty of spectrum (at the moment

If you are interested this is a good video on how to coordinate multiple frequencies. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAgGZOwwPSw I use the same process but I also use the RF explorer to scan for a longer time then import the scan to Wireless Workbench, and also to scan any bands where the gear I'm using can't scan. I also tend to monitor the situation using the RF Explorer to make sure nothing else pops up. On Monday I was able to see that a rehearsal had started in a nearby venue between our setup and the show, so I changed a couple of our frequencies to avoid any problems.

Hope that helps

Pete Jones

(+61) 0424 127432 petejonessound@gmail.com

On Sun, 28 Feb 2021 at 22:03, Bernd Konnerth notifications@github.com wrote:

Hi Pete,

that's an interesting way how you are doing the scans indeed. I'll think of how I can implement such a specific mode. Could be quite useful.

I was wondering already why in US most audio engineers are dealing with TV-channels. So it looks like its the same in Australia. As I understand such frequencies are allowed to be used if not occupied by TV in that region. No way, here in Germany. :-) Here everything that's not allowed is forbidden. ;-) I still have an older Sennheiser system which uses frequencies which meanwhile have been dedicated to LTE. So there is just about 1-2 MHz which I can use at the border of the systems frequency range without interfering with LTE. Officially that's an LTE guard range and should/must not be used for wireless mics anymore. But to be honest ... on weddings you need the mic for 5min for the father of the bride. ;-) So I'm scanning with RF-Explorer if there is an LTE carrier in range. If not, I don't bother. If yes, they have to take a cable mic. ;-)

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berkon commented 3 years ago

Hi Pete (@petejonessound ),

just created version V1.7.2 which contains the Australian frequency data and some bugfixes as well.

Regards, Bernd

notrhj commented 2 years ago

Contribute china innopow manual from amazon with frequency bands innopow wireless w333.pdf

Freezing0715 commented 6 months ago

Hi! I am a new radio enthusiast and sound engineer, I really need the preset frequency of AUDIX wireless microphone, I hope you can update it! Thanks again. Wireless_AP41-42_Manual_v13.0.pdf Wireless_AP61-62_Manual_v10.0.pdf

berkon commented 6 months ago

Hi @Freezing0715,

I've just published version 2.0.3 which contains the frequency presets for Audix.

moreben2023 commented 5 months ago

Hi, great SW! my contribution if I can help you to include Croatia; we should have pretty similar restrictions like Germany. I included TXT file with mobile/radio/TV signal ranges licensed by end of this year (ranges ending with '25' like 'LicBand 925' are valid after 202410)

Croatian regulation site related to RF spectrum from which I extracted TXT file: click on links: RFS database for mobile/fixed communication networks with national coverage RFS database for mobile/fixed communication networks with national coverage from 18.10.2024

https://www.hakom.hr/en/radio-frequency-spectrum-database/242

more detailed database (has some mic ranges "search for 'microphones' " inside but I think that mobile/radio/TV are main nonoverlaping events):

http://tablice.hakom.hr:8080/vis?lang=en

LICENSED_BANDS_HR.txt

br, ToniZG

berkon commented 5 months ago

Hi @moreben2023 I'm very happy to hear that my little tool is useful for you. Your contribution is very welcome. I'll create a new release with the data for Croatia asap.

Regards, Bernd

moreben2023 commented 4 months ago

Hi berkon, thanks for including Croatian ranges! I have send you mail with question so we could continue talk by mail? br, moreben2023

split-face commented 3 months ago

Hi there,

Thanks for your work on an incredible app!

The UK TV channel grid doesn't seem to display, so I'm wondering if you have included the data for it?

Information can be found here https://www.ofcom.org.uk/manage-your-licence/radiocommunication-licences/pmse/pmse-technical-info

Thanks again

berkon commented 3 months ago

Thanks a lot @split-face, your welcome! I'll add the UK TV channel grid in the next release.

leo-benjamin commented 2 months ago

Hi there,

I thought I would help out with the frequency planning in Belgium.

The overall frequency plan can be found here (available in German if needed): Belgium Frequency Plan

Since the tool is designed around wireless microphones, the most important information can be found in this PDF: Wireless Microphone Frequency Plan

Green channels are free to use. White channels require a purchased license. Red channels are no-go zones. Hope this helps!

berkon commented 2 months ago

Thanks a lot @leo-benjamin!

OE1MWW commented 2 months ago

hi @berkon,

I do have the current assigned slots for mobile phone in Austria https://www.rtr.at/TKP/was_wir_tun/telekommunikation/spectrum/bands/FRQ_spectrum.en.html Are the assignments in \locales *.pak files. Could not find a at.pak. How can I edit my file for the local assignments

Thanks for your software!

berkon commented 2 months ago

Hi @OE1MWW, the .pak files which you found are language files of the "Electron" framework on which my app is based on. Thus they do not contain the frequency data. The frequency data is compressed inside the app.asar file which contains the application. But unpacking does not help because afterwards the app won't run anymore.

But just let me know what's missing and I can add the Austrian data and create another release. Its not a big deal. That way we have it in the official release as well. Apart from that I don't think that there is any difference compared to the regulation here in Germany. At least the usual microphone bands around 700, 800 MHz do contain the LTE Spektrum and those frequency bands are mostly the same worldwide. But as said, I will take a look at the link you sent and check if there is any difference and add it. If there is anything else missing, just let me know.