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Google Summer of Code Plan of attack #18

Closed rowlandm closed 6 years ago

rowlandm commented 6 years ago

Hi All,

Yo and I had a quick talk about the Google Summer of Code.

We discussed a joint Stemformatics and BioJS application, as the OBF doesn't seem to have much energy that we can see in providing us with an umbrella organisation. This is because it may be better to have a few organisations under the one umbrella to get a better chance of being selected.

Other options discussed were: a) BioJS running as a separate organisation / application b) other organisations being part of this umbrella application.

Yo and I wanted to make sure that this decision could be discussed by the community.

It's important to note that if you want to provide input you will have to help write the applications etc!

Deadlines to finalise the decision of how to apply will be the 14th of January and we plan to submit by the 22nd of January (submission deadline is 23rd).

The plan is to have two projects for BioJS, a front end and a back end to replace the three websites, biojs.net, biojs.io and biojs.edu. We would use the mockups for the landing page in #4 as a guide for the project. If you have any input please make comments in #4

Rowland.

rowlandm commented 6 years ago
rowlandm commented 6 years ago

Comment from @manuelcorpas

We have been successful in the past on our own, in fact this was what led to BioJS 2.0.

rowlandm commented 6 years ago

Based on Manny's comments - I'd be happy for BioJS to apply separately.

yochannah commented 6 years ago

I'm more inclined towards a shared / umbrella style org (see the note here: https://google.github.io/gsocguides/mentor/org-application ), but if you're willing to do the application then I'll not argue ;)

I will happily volunteer to be a secondary org admin and / or mentor for one of the two projects, but I don't have time to be a primary mentor, as I'll (hopefully) have a student of my own through InterMine if we get in.

Yo

rowlandm commented 6 years ago

Hi Yo - I didn't see that document before - that's great to clarify.

If that's the case, I would strongly suggest to have an umbrella application. It's pretty much the same work anyway but at least we would have more than one organisation tied to it.

Is there any other organisation who would want to join, even if they were applying as a separate organisation?

ljgarcia commented 6 years ago

In order to apply as an umbrella, we need to show multiple organizations/institutions backing it up, do not we? I am not sure we have all that support right now. Yo, do you think Intermine would go for a join application under the BioJS umbrella? What about Stemformatics? Or maybe, should we look to join another group such as Galaxy? I kind of remember this as a possibility from our BoF meeting in July. Anyone from Galaxy on the list that could comment?

rowlandm commented 6 years ago

Stemformatics would definitely be part of this. I also want to see if InnateDB would be part of it, but I haven't asked them yet.

Would UniProt be interested?

Regards,

Rowland Mosbergen | Stemformatics Project Manager

Centre for Stem Cell Systems

Department of Anatomy and Neuroscience | Faculty of Medicine, Dentistry and Health Sciences

Room 1.36, Level 1, Kenneth Myer Building

The University of Melbourne, Victoria 3010 Australia

T: +61 3 834 46623 *E: *rowland@stemformatics.org rowland@stemformatics.org

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ljgarcia commented 6 years ago

What would be required to back up the application? We might get some interest from InterPro as well, @4ndr01d3 what do you think?

DennisSchwartz commented 6 years ago

I'm interested in that as well. I'm happy to present this to my boss as well if I know what it entails. He would probably be interested. We just got a new office, we might be able to spare a desk for a Student ;)

rowlandm commented 6 years ago

Probably a willingness to put your oganisations name in the application and also submit a project for the Project page.

In terms of details for the project, I have written up some for Stemformatics that you can check out here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zcuCTUMqbR7QFrUaGmxYGD_iKt8XCK6a35RtN6GGUC0/edit#heading=h.6egttnvbi2gu

Regards,

Rowland Mosbergen | Stemformatics Project Manager

Centre for Stem Cell Systems

Department of Anatomy and Neuroscience | Faculty of Medicine, Dentistry and Health Sciences

Room 1.36, Level 1, Kenneth Myer Building

The University of Melbourne, Victoria 3010 Australia

T: +61 3 834 46623 *E: *rowland@stemformatics.org rowland@stemformatics.org

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yochannah commented 6 years ago

@ljgarcia InterMine will be applying as its own organisation this year probably, although in the chance we didn't get in and biojs did we might come humbly begging for some spots ;)

@DennisSchwartz Physical desk spots aren't required for gsoc, although if you do end up with someone physically proximate, there's no reason for them not to visit/come to work in person.

@ everyone - I'd recommend reading through https://google.github.io/gsocguides/mentor/ if you haven't participated in gsoc before. Every student taken on (and every project idea) requires a named mentor and a time commitment from the mentor that could be several hours a week.

If you're writing a project idea, see the gsoc mentor guide on the requirements for writing a good list: https://google.github.io/gsocguides/mentor/defining-a-project-ideas-list

yochannah commented 6 years ago

@ljgarcia re galaxy - last year Galaxy used the Open Genome Informatics organisation (same umbrella org that InterMine used.) At this point in time we haven't heard from Open Genome Informatics so I'm not sure what will happen this year! I'll try to find out if they're planning to run again - if not maybe we can invite them.

yochannah commented 6 years ago

Update - OBF will be applying with any project ideas PRed by the 20th: https://github.com/OBF/GSoC

rowlandm commented 6 years ago

OK - I'll be trying to write those two projects up on the weekend.

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Update - OBF will be applying with any project ideas PRed by the 20th: https://github.com/OBF/GSoC

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