Hi Mark, Here are the color additions for std/graphics/color basically added some new base colors and 5 separate color groups: UI which has a lot of the microsoft UI colors Pico which has the pico-8 colors Xam which has the popular xamarin colors Vic which has the commodore base colors and Ex which are the extended colors. Note the new order for the base colors which groups them in proper color pattern

These are the total final colours I added to support Ted21. No more will be added or removed.

There is also a small function addition to allow integer color definitions

`'new jl added function

rem monkeydoc Allows a colors to be defined using integer values 0..255 instead of 0..1

end

Function ColorI:Color( red:Float, green:Float, blue:Float, alpha:float = 255 ) Return New Color( red / 255, green / 255, blue / 255, alpha / 255) End`

`#- 'begin of jl added colors. 'NOTE. The colors have also been merged into the original colors and now flow correctly together. 'E.G. blacks to whites, reds to brown to green to blue. so it's best to keep them like this

#rem monkeydoc Transparent black.
#end
Const None := New Color( 0,0,0,0 )

#rem monkeydoc Black.
#end
Const Black := New Color( 0,0,0 )

#rem monkeydoc Grey.
#end
Const Grey := New Color( .5,.5,.5 )

#rem monkeydoc Light Grey.
#end
Const LightGrey := New Color( .75,.75,.75 )

#rem monkeydoc Dark Grey.
#end
Const DarkGrey := New Color( .25,.25,.25 )

#rem monkeydoc White.
#end
Const White := New Color( 1,1,1 )

#rem monkeydoc Red.
#end
Const Red := New Color( 1,0,0 )

#rem monkeydoc Green.
#end
Const Green := New Color( 0,1,0 )

#rem monkeydoc Blue.
#end
Const Blue := New Color( 0,0,1 )

#rem monkeydoc Brown.
#end
Const Brown := New Color( .7,.4,.1 )

#rem monkeydoc Orange.
#end
Const Orange := New Color( 1,.5,0 )

#rem monkeydoc Yellow.
#end
Const Yellow := New Color( 1,1,0 )

#rem monkeydoc Lime.
#end
Const Lime := New Color( .7,1,0 )

#rem monkeydoc Pine.
#end
Const Pine := New Color( 0,.5,0 )

#rem monkeydoc Aqua.
#end
Const Aqua := New Color( 0,.9,.4 )

#rem monkeydoc Cyan.
#end
Const Cyan := New Color( 0,1,1 )

#rem monkeydoc Sky.
#end
Const Sky := New Color( 0,.5,1 )

#rem monkeydoc Steel.
#end
Const Steel := New Color( .2,.2,.7 )

#rem monkeydoc Violet.
#end
Const Violet := New Color( .7,0,1 )

#rem monkeydoc Magenta.
#end
Const Magenta := New Color( 1,0,1 )

#rem monkeydoc Puce.
#end
Const Puce := New Color( 1,0,.4 )

#rem monkeydoc Skin.
#end
Const Skin := New Color( .8,.5,.6 )

#rem monkeydoc UIDarkGrey.
#end
Const UIDarkGrey := New Color( .15,.15,.15 )

#rem monkeydoc UICharcoal.
#end
Const UICharcoal := New Color( .24,.23,.23 )

#rem monkeydoc UISilver.
#end
Const UISilver := New Color( .74,.73,.73 )

#rem monkeydoc UIBlue.
#end
Const UIBlue := New Color( .0,.4,.9 )

#rem monkeydoc UIPaleBlue.
#end
Const UIPaleBlue := New Color( .56,.78,.85 )

#rem monkeydoc UIDarkBlue.
#end
Const UIDarkBlue := New Color( .24,.35,.58 )

#rem monkeydoc UIOrange.
#end
Const UIOrange := New Color( .86,.61,.13 )

#rem monkeydoc UIBurntOrange.
#end
Const UIBurntOrange := New Color( .79,.31,0 )

#rem monkeydoc UIDarkOrange.
#end
Const UIDarkOrange := New Color( .52,.26,.09 )

#rem monkeydoc UIPurple.
#end
Const UIPurple := New Color( .61,.36,.72 )

#rem monkeydoc UICyan.
#end
Const UICyan := New Color( .25,.60,.82 )

#rem monkeydoc UILightGreen.
#end
Const UILightGreen := New Color( .32,.80,.31 )

#rem monkeydoc UILavender.
#end
Const UILavender := New Color( .51,.58,.93 )

#rem monkeydoc UIVibrantGreen.
#end
Const UIVibrantGreen := New Color( .09,.87,.07 )

#rem monkeydoc UIFontBlue.
#end
Const UIFontBlue := New Color( .11,.57,.96 )

#rem monkeydoc UIBrown.
#end
Const UIBrown := New Color( .62,.31,.01 )

#rem monkeydoc UIGreen.
#end
Const UIGreen := New Color( .2,.6,.19 )

#rem monkeydoc UILeaf.
#end
Const UILeaf := New Color( .21,.43,.17 )

#rem monkeydoc UILime.
#end
Const UILime := New Color( .54,.74,.14 )

#rem monkeydoc UIMagenta.
#end
Const UIMagenta := New Color( .99,.01,.59 )

#rem monkeydoc UIMango.
#end
Const UIMango := New Color( .94,.58,.03 )

#rem monkeydoc UIPink.
#end
Const UIPink := New Color( .90,.44,.72 )

#rem monkeydoc UIRed.
#end
Const UIRed := New Color( .89,.07,.01 )

#rem monkeydoc UIYellow.
#end
Const UIYellow := New Color( .89,.87,.01 )

#rem monkeydoc UITeal.
#end
Const UITeal := New Color( .18,.65,.52 )

#rem monkeydoc PicoBlack.
#end
Const PicoBlack := New Color( .1,.1,.1 )

#rem monkeydoc PicoBrown.
#end
Const PicoBrown := New Color( .67,.32,.21 )

#rem monkeydoc PicoRed.
#end
Const PicoRed := New Color( .92,.1,.31 )

#rem monkeydoc PicoCyan.
#end
Const PicoCyan := New Color( .31,.65,.86 )

#rem monkeydoc PicoBlue.
#end
Const PicoBlue := New Color( .1,.16,.32 )

#rem monkeydoc PicoDirt.
#end
Const PicoDirt := New Color( .37,.34,.3 )

#rem monkeydoc PicoOrange.
#end
Const PicoOrange := New Color( .98,.63,.1 )

#rem monkeydoc PicoPurple.
#end
Const PicoPurple := New Color( .51,.46,.61 )

#rem monkeydoc PicoMaroon.
#end
Const PicoMaroon := New Color( .49,.14,.32 )

#rem monkeydoc PicoSilver.
#end
Const PicoSilver := New Color( .76,.76,.77 )

#rem monkeydoc PicoYellow.
#end
Const PicoYellow := New Color( .96,.92,.18 )

#rem monkeydoc PicoPink.
#end
Const PicoPink := New Color( .94,.46,.65 )

#rem monkeydoc PicoGreen.
#end
Const PicoGreen := New Color( 0,.52,.31 )

#rem monkeydoc PicoWhite.
#end
Const PicoWhite := New Color( .99,.94,.91 )

#rem monkeydoc PicoLime.
#end
Const PicoLime := New Color( .36,.73,.3 )

#rem monkeydoc PicoSkin.
#end
Const PicoSkin := New Color( .98,.8,.87 )

#rem monkeydoc XamCoral.
#end
Const XamCoral := New Color( .95,.26,.21 )

#rem monkeydoc XamPink.
#end
Const XamPink := New Color( .91,.11,.38 )

#rem monkeydoc XamPurple.
#end
Const XamPurple := New Color( .61,.15,.69 )

#rem monkeydoc XamViolet.
#end
Const XamViolet := New Color( .4,.22,.71 )

#rem monkeydoc XamBlue.
#end
Const XamBlue := New Color( .24,.17,.7 )

#rem monkeydoc XamSky.
#end
Const XamSky := New Color( .12,.58,.95 )

#rem monkeydoc XamWater.
#end
Const XamWater := New Color( .01,.66,.95 )

#rem monkeydoc XamAqua.
#end
Const XamAqua := New Color( 0,.73,.83 )

#rem monkeydoc XamPine.
#end
Const XamPine := New Color( 0,.58,.53 )

#rem monkeydoc XamMint.
#end
Const XamMint := New Color( .54,.76,.29 )

#rem monkeydoc XamGreen.
#end
Const XamGreen := New Color( .29,.68,.31 )

#rem monkeydoc XamLime.
#end
Const XamLime := New Color( .8,.86,.22 )

#rem monkeydoc XamYellow.
#end
Const XamYellow := New Color( 1,.92,.23 )

#rem monkeydoc XamPeach.
#end
Const XamPeach := New Color( 1,.75,.03 )

#rem monkeydoc XamOrange.
#end
Const XamOrange := New Color( 1,.59,.01 )

#rem monkeydoc XamEmber.
#end
Const XamEmber := New Color( 1,.38,.13 )

#rem monkeydoc XamBrown.
#end
Const XamBrown := New Color( .47,.33,.28 )

#rem monkeydoc XamSilver.
#end
Const XamSilver := New Color( .61,.61,.61 )

#rem monkeydoc XamSteel.
#end
Const XamSteel := New Color( .37,.49,.54 )

#rem monkeydoc VicBlack.
#end
Const VicBlack := New Color( .1,.1,.1 )

#rem monkeydoc VicGrey.
#end
Const VicGrey := New Color( .61,.61,.61 )

#rem monkeydoc VicWhite.
#end
Const VicWhite := New Color( .96,.96,.96 )

#rem monkeydoc VicRed.
#end
Const VicRed := New Color( .74,.14,.2 )

#rem monkeydoc VicLiver.
#end
Const VicLiver := New Color( .45,.16,.18 )

#rem monkeydoc VicBlush.
#end
Const VicBlush := New Color( .87,.43,.54 )

#rem monkeydoc VicPink.
#end
Const VicPink := New Color( .79,.26,.65 )

#rem monkeydoc VicDirt.
#end
Const VicDirt := New Color( .28,.23,.16 )

#rem monkeydoc VicBrown.
#end
Const VicBrown := New Color( .64,.39,.13 )

#rem monkeydoc VicKhaki.
#end
Const VicKhaki := New Color( .67,.61,.2 )

#rem monkeydoc VicOrange.
#end
Const VicOrange := New Color( .92,.53,.19 )

#rem monkeydoc VicFire.
#end
Const VicFire := New Color( .92,.27,0 )

#rem monkeydoc VicLemon.
#end
Const VicLemon := New Color( .96,.88,.41 )

#rem monkeydoc VicPeach.
#end
Const VicPeach := New Color( .98,.70,.4 )

#rem monkeydoc VicPine.
#end
Const VicPine := New Color( .06,.36,.2 )

#rem monkeydoc VicGreen.
#end
Const VicGreen := New Color( .26,.36,.1 )

#rem monkeydoc VicLime.
#end
Const VicLime := New Color( .63,.80,.15 )

#rem monkeydoc VicOil.
#end
Const VicOil := New Color( .18,.28,.3 )

#rem monkeydoc VicSea.
#end
Const VicSea := New Color( .07,.5,.49 )

#rem monkeydoc VicAqua.
#end
Const VicAqua := New Color( .08,.76,.64 )

#rem monkeydoc VicRoyal.
#end
Const VicRoyal := New Color( .13,.35,.96 )

#rem monkeydoc VicBlue.
#end
Const VicBue := New Color( 0,.34,.52 )

#rem monkeydoc VicSky.
#end
Const VicSky := New Color( .19,.63,.94 )

#rem monkeydoc VicSteel.
#end
Const VicSteel := New Color( .69,.86,.92 )

#rem monkeydoc VicPurple.
#end
Const VicPurple := New Color( .2,.16,.59 )

#rem monkeydoc VicViolet.
#end
Const VicViolet := New Color( .6,.39,.97 )

#rem monkeydoc VicCandy.
#end
Const VicCandy := New Color( .96,.55,.97 )

#rem monkeydoc VicSkin.
#end
Const VicSkin := New Color( .95,.72,.56 )

#rem monkeydoc ExLightGrey.
#end
Const ExLightGrey := New Color( .75,.75,.75 )

#rem monkeydoc ExDarkGrey.
#end
Const ExDarkGrey := New Color( .25,.25,.25 )

#rem monkeydoc ExBrown.
#end
Const ExBrown := New Color( .62,.31,0 )

#rem monkeydoc ExTreeTrunk.
#end
Const ExTreeTrunk := New Color( .31,.23,.17 )

#rem monkeydoc ExLime.
#end
Const ExLime := New Color( .54,.74,.14 )

#rem monkeydoc ExMango.
#end
Const ExMango := New Color( .94,.58,.03 )

#rem monkeydoc ExOrange.
#end
Const ExOrange := New Color( .79,.32,0 )

#rem monkeydoc ExPink.
#end
Const ExPink := New Color( .79,.44,.72 )

#rem monkeydoc ExPurple.
#end
Const ExPurple := New Color( .41,.13,.48 )

#rem monkeydoc ExLeaf.
#end
Const ExLeaf := New Color( .2,.6,.2 )

#rem monkeydoc ExYolk.
#end
Const ExYolk := New Color( 1,.65,0 )

#rem monkeydoc ExPeach.
#end
Const ExPeach := New Color( 1,.8,.01 )

#rem monkeydoc ExSand.
#end
Const ExSand := New Color( .94,.87,.7 )

#rem monkeydoc ExWetSand.
#end
Const ExWetSand := New Color( .73,.66,.48 )

#rem monkeydoc ExNavy.
#end
Const ExNavy := New Color( .09,.15,.44 )

#rem monkeydoc ExMorello.
#end
Const ExMorello := New Color( .6,.34,.71 )

#rem monkeydoc ExTeal.
#end
Const ExTeal := New Color( .22,.43,.5 )

#rem monkeydoc ExSky.
#end
Const ExSky := New Color( .2,.59,.85 )

#rem monkeydoc ExSlime.
#end
Const ExSlime := New Color( .18,.8,.44 )

#rem monkeydoc ExMint.
#end
Const ExMint := New Color( .08,.62,.52 )

#rem monkeydoc ExSilver.
#end
Const ExSilver := New Color( .74,.76,.76 )

#rem monkeydoc ExGold.
#end
Const ExGold := New Color( .83,.66,.29 )

#rem monkeydoc ExForest.
#end
Const ExForest := New Color( .17,.31,.21 )

#rem monkeydoc ExPlum.
#end
Const ExPlum := New Color( .36,.2,.36 )

#rem monkeydoc ExWatermellon.
#end
Const ExWatermellon := New Color( .85,.32,.32 )

#rem monkeydoc ExAvocado.
#end
Const ExAvocado := New Color( .55,.69,.12 )

#rem monkeydoc ExBubblegum.
#end
Const ExBubblegum := New Color( .83,.36,.61 )

#rem monkeydoc ExMaroon.
#end
Const ExMaroon := New Color( .47,.18,.16 )

#rem monkeydoc ExCoffee.
#end
Const ExCoffee := New Color( .55,.44,.36 )

#rem monkeydoc ExLavender.
#end
Const ExLavender := New Color( .6,.67,.83 )

#rem monkeydoc ExPowder.
#end
Const ExPowder := New Color( .72,.78,.94 )

#rem monkeydoc ExPigeon.
#end
Const ExPigeon := New Color( .22,.29,.5 )

#rem monkeydoc ExUmber.
#end
Const ExUmber := New Color( .7,.53,0 )

rem monkeydoc ExBuff.

#end
Const ExBuff := New Color( .84,.77,.64 )

#rem monkeydoc ExCobble.
#end
Const ExCobble := New Color( .47,.38,.33 )

#rem monkeydoc ExAqua.
#end
Const ExAqua := New Color( .59,.67,.68 )

#rem monkeydoc ExSewer.
#end
Const ExSewer := New Color( .78,.78,.59 )

#rem monkeydoc ExDragon.
#end
Const ExDragon := New Color( .8,.38,.5 )

#rem monkeydoc ExEmber.
#end
Const ExEmber := New Color( .74,.47,.34 )

#rem monkeydoc ExOlive.
#end
Const ExOlive := New Color( .52,.6,.1 )

#rem monkeydoc ExCorn.
#end
Const ExCorn := New Color( .91,.8,.32 )

#rem monkeydoc ExHoney.
#end
Const ExHoney := New Color( .95,.48,.59 )

#rem monkeydoc ExPhlox.
#end
Const ExPhlox := New Color( .52,.25,.51 )

#rem monkeydoc ExKhaki.
#end
Const ExKhaki := New Color( .59,.56,.39 )

#rem monkeydoc ExNougat.
#end
Const ExNougat := New Color( .83,.73,.62 )

'end of JL added colors

-

small addition of missing color. put it directly after VicRoyal: `

rem monkeydoc VicBlue.

#end
Const VicBlue := New Color( .15,.49,.66 )

Ok, I've added the first set - thanks! - but not the UI, Pico, Ex etc ones as I think these are more suitable for extension modules.

Hi Mark, Partial thanks I think you're wrong not using the full set, they cover all the colors and I am still going to have users whith missing color errors. The next step was finding some way of you using the color selector, but again this is now broken.

I'm not trying to work against you here, I'm really trying to work with you on this.

Jean-Luc

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Ok, I've added the first set - thanks! - but not the UI, Pico, Ex etc ones as I think these are more suitable for extension modules.

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I am still going to have users whith missing color errors

Umm, why? Why not just include your colors with your code? They're just a bunch of consts, they don't have to be in 'Color' (although with class extensions, you can make it appear as if they are). I really don't understand this and feel like you're making a big deal out of something pretty minor.

The bottom line is I don't want 100001 'custom' colors in std.color.Color, just a simple set of useful stock colors. And I definitely don't want to be adding more colors each time someone needs them for their project!

I don't even think your approach is all that sound for what you're doing - why not stick the colors in a JSON file or something and load them at runtime? Much for flexible, as nothing's hardcoded in so you can have as many palettes/colors as you want, people can add/edit/save palletes etc. And likely easier to code - what have you got in there anyway, a huge array of "name/color" structs? Or a massive sequence of 'AddColorGadget(...)' statements?!? Without reflection, it must be something pretty gnarly!

On Sat, Oct 1, 2016 at 6:37 PM, StrangeIsMyName notifications@github.com wrote:

Hi Mark, Partial thanks I think you're wrong not using the full set, they cover all the colors and I am still going to have users whith missing color errors. The next step was finding some way of you using the color selector, but again this is now broken.

I'm not trying to work against you here, I'm really trying to work with you on this.

Jean-Luc

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ok, quiet time for 10...

You are (of course) right with the 'your code' 'your colors' and they don't' have to be in color'. it was just that seemed the best place for them to be consistent with the code and be more helpful to users.

You are also right in talking about extensions. But these are an additions which was not there at the time, were not signposted as was coming, etc. So far (in this respect) Monkey2 is a moving target. You start coding and on a whim everything changes...

I'm not going to comment on the last paragraph - I think that's best ;)

OK. It seems that for whatever reason you think I'm working against you? I'm not.

All I wanted was to have a more productive editor for monkey that all users could benefit from.

I can't see what is so wrong with having a pop-up panel that has all the available colors shown in one simple way with color variations

Do you want me to continue and submit the other stuff like the parsing code for mx2cc and the opengl additions for canvas?

Jean-Luc

nOn 1 Oct 2016, at 07:31, Mark Sibly notifications@github.com wrote:

I am still going to have users whith missing color errors

Umm, why? Why not just include your colors with your code? They're just a bunch of consts, they don't have to be in 'Color' (although with class extensions, you can make it appear as if they are). I really don't understand this and feel like you're making a big deal out of something pretty minor.

The bottom line is I don't want 100001 'custom' colors in std.color.Color, just a simple set of useful stock colors. And I definitely don't want to be adding more colors each time someone needs them for their project!

I don't even think your approach is all that sound for what you're doing - why not stick the colors in a JSON file or something and load them at runtime? Much for flexible, as nothing's hardcoded in so you can have as many palettes/colors as you want, people can add/edit/save palletes etc. And likely easier to code - what have you got in there anyway, a huge array of "name/color" structs? Or a massive sequence of 'AddColorGadget(...)' statements?!? Without reflection, it must be something pretty gnarly!

On Sat, Oct 1, 2016 at 6:37 PM, StrangeIsMyName notifications@github.com wrote:

Hi Mark, Partial thanks I think you're wrong not using the full set, they cover all the colors and I am still going to have users whith missing color errors. The next step was finding some way of you using the color selector, but again this is now broken.

I'm not trying to work against you here, I'm really trying to work with you on this.

Jean-Luc

On 30 Sep 2016, at 21:32, Mark Sibly notifications@github.com wrote:

Ok, I've added the first set - thanks! - but not the UI, Pico, Ex etc ones as I think these are more suitable for extension modules.

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No, I don't think you're working against me, I just think the idea of adding a bunch of color consts to the standard library for the sake of one app is, well, not a good one.

Feel free to post more issues or submit changes etc, but to be honest unless it's something super simple that looks like it'll be zero hassle to integrate/maintain, there's little chance it''ll be added as I've just got too much other stuff to do.

On Sat, Oct 1, 2016 at 7:57 PM, StrangeIsMyName notifications@github.com wrote:

ok, quiet time for 10...

You are (of course) right with the 'your code' 'your colors' and they don't' have to be in color'. it was just that seemed the best place for them to be consistent with the code and be more helpful to users.

You are also right in talking about extensions. But these are an additions which was not there at the time, were not signposted as was coming, etc. So far (in this respect) Monkey2 is a moving target. You start coding and on a whim everything changes...

I'm not going to comment on the last paragraph - I think that's best ;)

OK. It seems that for whatever reason you think I'm working against you? I'm not.

All I wanted was to have a more productive editor for monkey that all users could benefit from.

I can't see what is so wrong with having a pop-up panel that has all the available colors shown in one simple way with color variations

Do you want me to continue and submit the other stuff like the parsing code for mx2cc and the opengl additions for canvas?

Jean-Luc

nOn 1 Oct 2016, at 07:31, Mark Sibly notifications@github.com wrote:

I am still going to have users whith missing color errors

Umm, why? Why not just include your colors with your code? They're just a bunch of consts, they don't have to be in 'Color' (although with class extensions, you can make it appear as if they are). I really don't understand this and feel like you're making a big deal out of something pretty minor.

The bottom line is I don't want 100001 'custom' colors in std.color.Color, just a simple set of useful stock colors. And I definitely don't want to be adding more colors each time someone needs them for their project!

I don't even think your approach is all that sound for what you're doing

why not stick the colors in a JSON file or something and load them at runtime? Much for flexible, as nothing's hardcoded in so you can have as many palettes/colors as you want, people can add/edit/save palletes etc. And likely easier to code - what have you got in there anyway, a huge array of "name/color" structs? Or a massive sequence of 'AddColorGadget(...)' statements?!? Without reflection, it must be something pretty gnarly!

On Sat, Oct 1, 2016 at 6:37 PM, StrangeIsMyName < notifications@github.com> wrote:

Hi Mark, Partial thanks I think you're wrong not using the full set, they cover all the colors and I am still going to have users whith missing color errors. The next step was finding some way of you using the color selector, but again this is now broken.

I'm not trying to work against you here, I'm really trying to work with you on this.

Jean-Luc

On 30 Sep 2016, at 21:32, Mark Sibly notifications@github.com wrote:

Ok, I've added the first set - thanks! - but not the UI, Pico, Ex etc ones as I think these are more suitable for extension modules.

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I would totally agree about the "one app". Except the one app is an editor for monkey2: Ted21. which was forked from ted2.

In this case it is not a standard 'app'. It's meant as a replacement/augment to ted2. So there are lots of things added to make any devs life just abit more pleasant. Having a standard set of colors being one of them. You mentioned user palettes - already done and fully integrated (visually) into ted21. custom color mixing done and integrated. Icons strips from bitmap done and integrated into ted21. code overview with custom locations done.

This is not an "app" it should be something that everyone can rely on if they want.

I am now working on the prototype vector editor (just doing final debugging), which will allow for complete libriaries of vector objects, which will make stuff like asteriods a very simple process of just drawing the shapes not trying to work out what the numbers are, etc.

As part of that the next step will be the sprite editor. Which directly integrates into the full color systems already developed.

Ted21 can be considered the visual companion to ted2. If you want to use photoshop and ted2 then that's great. but if you just want to draw a sprite and get it working without anything else, then ted21 is where you go...

I'm trying not to add anything to the modules if possible, but something like the colors, parsing and some core graphic stuff really needs to be in the core itself. As said before the colors (bar any minor corrections) are complete and will not be added to.

On 1 Oct 2016, at 10:18, Mark Sibly notifications@github.com wrote:

No, I don't think you're working against me, I just think the idea of adding a bunch of color consts to the standard library for the sake of one app is a really bad one.

Feel free to post more issues or submit changes etc, but to be honest unless it's something super simple that looks like it'll be zero hassle to integrate/maintain, there's little chance it''ll be added as I've just got too much other stuff to do.

On Sat, Oct 1, 2016 at 7:57 PM, StrangeIsMyName notifications@github.com wrote:

ok, quiet time for 10...

You are (of course) right with the 'your code' 'your colors' and they don't' have to be in color'. it was just that seemed the best place for them to be consistent with the code and be more helpful to users.

You are also right in talking about extensions. But these are an additions which was not there at the time, were not signposted as was coming, etc. So far (in this respect) Monkey2 is a moving target. You start coding and on a whim everything changes...

I'm not going to comment on the last paragraph - I think that's best ;)

OK. It seems that for whatever reason you think I'm working against you? I'm not.

All I wanted was to have a more productive editor for monkey that all users could benefit from.

I can't see what is so wrong with having a pop-up panel that has all the available colors shown in one simple way with color variations

Do you want me to continue and submit the other stuff like the parsing code for mx2cc and the opengl additions for canvas?

Jean-Luc

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I am still going to have users whith missing color errors

Umm, why? Why not just include your colors with your code? They're just a bunch of consts, they don't have to be in 'Color' (although with class extensions, you can make it appear as if they are). I really don't understand this and feel like you're making a big deal out of something pretty minor.

The bottom line is I don't want 100001 'custom' colors in std.color.Color, just a simple set of useful stock colors. And I definitely don't want to be adding more colors each time someone needs them for their project!

I don't even think your approach is all that sound for what you're doing

why not stick the colors in a JSON file or something and load them at runtime? Much for flexible, as nothing's hardcoded in so you can have as many palettes/colors as you want, people can add/edit/save palletes etc. And likely easier to code - what have you got in there anyway, a huge array of "name/color" structs? Or a massive sequence of 'AddColorGadget(...)' statements?!? Without reflection, it must be something pretty gnarly!

On Sat, Oct 1, 2016 at 6:37 PM, StrangeIsMyName < notifications@github.com> wrote:

Hi Mark, Partial thanks I think you're wrong not using the full set, they cover all the colors and I am still going to have users whith missing color errors. The next step was finding some way of you using the color selector, but again this is now broken.

I'm not trying to work against you here, I'm really trying to work with you on this.

Jean-Luc

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Ok, I've added the first set - thanks! - but not the UI, Pico, Ex etc ones as I think these are more suitable for extension modules.

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blitz-research / monkey2

std/graphics/color.monkey2 color additions #84

rem monkeydoc Allows a colors to be defined using integer values 0..255 instead of 0..1

end

rem monkeydoc ExBuff.

-

rem monkeydoc VicBlue.

I don't even think your approach is all that sound for what you're doing

I don't even think your approach is all that sound for what you're doing